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Damric
06-06-2006, 09:55
So I was leveling my new Fireball sorc with another sorc enchanting me. I was using one of them explode bows to plow cows, ect.

Then I looked at my damage. It was like 18-20k per arrow. The enchanter only had like a 4k enchant, so Fire Mastery must have been stacking again on my sorc. Looks like a similar thing as when firemastery stacks on enchanter's melee attack, but way more powerful.

Pretty cool when I was using piercing/explode arrows, very powerful, funny in pk rooms with a lvl 50 sorc.

Basically in order to get it to work you need 2 sorcs, one with high lvl enchant/mastery/warmth to enchant another with high mastery.

Orphan
06-06-2006, 11:49
You'll find that your fire mastery will not increase the damage of the enchant that's been cast on you, because you are attacking with a ranged attack. Your mastery will, however, increase the explosive component of the arrow, and the enchant's fire damage will be applied both to the explosive component and the arrow itself.

Check out http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=464619 for abit more information on ranged attacks with enchant.

PhatTrumpet
06-06-2006, 15:39
It was like 18-20k per arrow.
Supposedly just a display error. This would be your damage if you were actually whacking things, but since you were shooting things it's inaccurate.

krischan
06-06-2006, 16:27
In addition, you can do all this with the same sorc. You don't need a second one.

Quietus
07-06-2006, 11:16
In addition, you can do all this with the same sorc. You don't need a second one.


So - if the Fire Mastery is applied to A) Base Enchant damage, and B) The burst from the fire explosion of exploding arrows, then :

Does it work by going

Enhance Enchant -> apply Enchant to explosion -> enhance explosion
OR
Enhance Enchant -> enhance explosion -> apply Enchant to explosion

The first would end up enhancing your enchant damage twice, if you were using something with explosive arrows, but not necessarily for ALL ranged attacks. The second, you would just get the enchant on the explosion, not a double-enhanced enchant. In both cases, there would be the enchant carried by the arrow, as well.

And, with Holy Shock - does it really apply the bonus from light mastery twice? I would have thought that it would be only once, on striking.

Orphan
07-06-2006, 12:06
Does it work by going

Enhance Enchant -> apply Enchant to explosion -> enhance explosion
OR
Enhance Enchant -> enhance explosion -> apply Enchant to explosion

The latter. Fire Mastery would increase the explosion fire damage, but not the enchant that is added to the explosion fire damage. In other words, the enhant wouldn't get a double application of fire mastery for the ranged attack.



And, with Holy Shock - does it really apply the bonus from light mastery twice? I would have thought that it would be only once, on striking.

It would only apply the bonus twice if the sorc was attacking with a melee weapon. If they were using a ranged weapon, they wouldn't get the double application.

krischan
07-06-2006, 12:12
Enchant doesn't get applied to the explosion. It just adds fire damage to your melee or missile attack (and provides an ar bonus). It's that additional fire damage which benefits twice from fire mastery when a melee attack is made.

Edit: See above :rolleyes:

Orphan
07-06-2006, 12:33
Edit: See above :rolleyes:

Sorry krischan, I usually try to leave questions that were asked to another person, unless they've been unanswered for awhile (at which point I assume they're busy or something).

Damric
08-06-2006, 05:45
really I think it is applying 2x. I tried hell cows with my enchanter, then did it again with my enchanted sorc, and the enchanted sorc was plowing them down way faster with the same enchant. both were using demon machine.

krischan
08-06-2006, 12:42
Sorry krischan, I usually try to leave questions that were asked to another person, unless they've been unanswered for awhile (at which point I assume they're busy or something).
I meant it as an indication that I was too late. It would be silly to consider this "my" thread or "my" question, of course :azn: