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FrostBurn
05-06-2006, 07:19
Hello.

I'm referring to the German IAS calculator. Every now and again someone questions that it is flawed for a certain char class, but further queries always reveal that the calculator is accurate.

Recently, someone stated that it is inaccurate for act 2 mercs' Jab attacks. I remember seeing RTB's merc tables, which I dug up here (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=344501&page=3).

Take for example The Reaper's Toll, which is a Thresher with a WSM of -10.

RTB says this:
Act 2 Merc Jab Attack WSM -10 fpa+ActionFrame
IAS frames ActionFrames
0 13 6,10
3 13 6,9
8 12 6,9
13 12 5,9
18 12 5,8
22 11 5,8
42 10 5,8
46 10 5,7
60 10 4,7
75 9 4,7
109 9 4,6
142 8 4,6

Act 2 Merc Jab Attack WSM -10 ActionFrame
IAS ActionFrames
0 6,10
3 6,9
13 5,9
18 5,8
46 5,7
60 4,7
109 4,6

German Calculator says this (for Jab attacks):
IAS Frames per Attack Attacks per Frame
0 % 7.5 3.3
8 % 7 3.5
22 % 6.5 3.8
44 % 6 4.1
75 % 5.5 4.5
142 % 5 5

Looking at both tables, there does appear to be some sort of discrepancy.
1. At 22% IAS, RTB says 11 fpa, whereas the calculator says 6.5 fpa.
2. RTB's next breakpoint is at 42% IAS at 10 fpa, whereas the calculator's is at 44% at 6 fpa.
3. The next breakpoint coincides at 75%, but RTB gives 9 fpa whereas the calculator gives 5.5 fpa.

Both sources will have contradictory values for all the other WSMs as well. RTB must be correct, but does that make the German calculator inaccurate for Act 2 mercs? If so, what other inaccuracies does the calculator have?

And can someone please explain to me what an ActionFrame is? It can't be Attacks per Frame, since the values of both run opposite of each other as you go down both tables.

Thank you.

Hrus
05-06-2006, 08:43
I believe that RTB is correct as allways.
Action frame is the frame in which the hit actually occurs.

FrostBurn
31-08-2006, 21:21
Ok, I've got a problem and I need some help, and I thought it best to stick it in this old thread, since it is related.

I usually manage to achieve 55% IAS for my Act 2 merc. This is by putting a Shael (20%) in The Reaper's Toll, and an IAS jewel (15% IAS) in Andariel's Visage (20%). RTB's table indicates that my merc will achieve a 10 frame Jab attack with ActionFrames of 5,7.

I'm planning on using different gear for my amazon's merc, namely The Reaper's Toll with a Shael, Guardian Angel and Blackhorn's Face. The aim here is to achieve 90% Lightning Resist with +20 Lightning Absorb.

With only a Shael, my merc achieves a 12 frame Jab with ActionFrames of 5,8.

With a Shael and a 15% IAS jewel in Blackhorn's Face, my merc achieves an 11 frame Jab with ActionFrames of 5,8.

Here is the problem. No matter how hard I try, I just cannot notice a change in my merc's attack speed in-game. Whether I put Blackhorn's Face with the IAS jewel on him or take it off, he just seems to be attacking at the same speed. In contrast, if I put Andariel's Visage with a 15% IAS jewel on him, I do notice a faster attack speed (at 10 frames).

So, is aiming for an 11 frame Jab attack going to make a difference over settling for a 12 frame Jab? I certainly don't notice a change in attack speed in-game... If it doesn't make a difference, then I can contemplate socketing Blackhorn's Face with an Um rune instead to achieve 90 resist all for my merc.

Thanks for the advice.

Fairlady
09-09-2006, 03:49
sry for bumping up this old post, but can someone clear this up? which is inaccurate?

Orphan
09-09-2006, 10:23
sry for bumping up this old post, but can someone clear this up? which is inaccurate?

The German Calc is incorrect. Use RTB's tables listed above. I just spent the last 30 mins running through all the data from animdata and monseq, and I ended up with the same results as RTB (though at least now I have it in spreadsheet format for next time).