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Epheira
03-06-2006, 16:06
I cant find any here, or am i not looking good ?

Ce Olba
03-06-2006, 16:08
I cant find any here, or am i not looking good ?

Dyn's PvP WW Barb Guide is a BvA pretty much. As for BvCs, there isn't one stickied, but you should search do a search for "dumbpig" and look for "WW Guide. Short". Also try searching for "Blobguide" and look for "New Blobguide". I will copy-paste a bit of text that I posted a few days ago, a brief outline of BvCs.

A normal BvC would look like this:

Stats:
lvl >=90
63 str (if +40 from anni+torch)
47 dexterity (is +40 from anni+torch)
rest vitality

Skills:
20 Leap
20 WW
20 Axe Mastery
20 Bo
5 Nat Res
5-6 Inc Speed
Rest Shout

Pub Gear:

CoA 'BerBer'
Enigma
GriefZ 34/xxx
BeastZ xxx%/+>=36
Arachnid's Mesh
2x Ravenfrosts with 18-20 dex and 240-250 ar
Draculs with 15 str
Triple or double resistance boots with frw and str or dex. In case of double resistances, these resistances should be Fire and Lightning. With Triple Fire, Lightning and Cold.
Highlord's Wrath
2x Dooms

Stash gear:
Fortitude
Widowmaker 'Hel'
2x Angelic rings
1x Angelic amulet
2x fcr rings with >60 mana
Demonlimb
Kiras
Lightning Stack (4 ort armor, 19-20/1x's)
TGod's
Life Tap Wand
Treachery
Hotspurs
Trang Gloves
Arreat's 'ed/ias'

Charms:
Optimal: 33x max/ar/life scs (only if perfect), 4x fhr/allres scs, Annihilus with 20 stats, torch with 20 stats
Very Good: 33x ar/life scs, 4x fhr/resi scs, Annihilus with 19-20 stats, torch with 19-20 stats.
Good: >20x ar/life scs, 4x fhr scs, Annihilus with >15 stats, torch with >15 stats, the spare spots you have you should fill with plain 20 life scs or 20/17s or 20/11s.
Decent: 3x ar/life gcs (13x/3x), 4x fhr scs, rest 20 life scs, torch+anni total stats >30
Poor: None
Very Poor: None
Extreamly Poor: NONE!

Things you want to achieve:
10k ar with the Pub Setup mentioned
>6000 life
20 fcr with pubsetup, 40% fcr available when needed
all res 75
40% frw from Inc speed
Enough lightning resistances to negate a foher when needed
48% fhr breakpoint hit

There you go. This barb here has nothing BM, but it can beat almost anything. If played correctly, only godly BvBs will beat you. But I tell you, that will take you lots and lots of time, won't happen in a week, in a month. Maybe in a year, if you're lucky enough.

I wouldn't consider this a "guide", but it does give a brief outline, such as breakpoints, resistances, gear, skills, stats. Heck, I might even save that in a .doc on my PC and write a guide :smiley:

pdpsiSS
03-06-2006, 21:15
^ good outline of bvc

Ce Olba
03-06-2006, 21:44
^ good outline of bvc

How come it's "good" ? Myself, as a perfectionist, I think it misses all the reasoning behind all the gear. I would rather see reasons to reach ring, each amulet, each armor, each helm, each skill point spent, each stat point spent, each weapon. Simply everything. Well, if I can get a Guide together, it will include someting like that.

OT: got a 7.9 average score on the final school report. The scale is 4-10, 4 equals to failed, 10 is perfect. Oh, and this makes 7 the average. Gosh, I wish I had given more effort on my religion and history and Swedish studies. Maybe even the volunteery Germany I had. If I had gotten 1 better grade from any of the 10 subjects, I would've had an average of 8. Well, the highest average grade needed in my country is something like 9.1 I think, whereas to get to the highschool in my school you would need 8.6. I feel so beaten by the fact that I didn't make it.

I like to use less 32020s and like 2 more mana charms.

That's a good point, since I doubt the 1k extra ar being really "necessary". You could actually replace 9-10 32020s with something else, and have 10k AR, if I remember correctly that you have 11k ar with dual ravens and 33x 32020s. That would result in 153 or 170 extra mana, which after bo would be 365 or 406. This would result in 740 total mana with dual ravens on lvl 91. Without the ravens (aka with dual gelics) you would still have 645 mana. With 2x 80 mana rings, you would have 1027 mana. Pretty crazy, huh? I think this could be the optimal setup. Who wouldn't like an extra 400 mana, with the loss of 1 010 ar and +30 maximum damage?

Jerion
03-06-2006, 21:50
I like to use less 32020s and like 2 more mana charms.

pdpsiSS
04-06-2006, 07:35
ok


^bad outline

morotsjos
04-06-2006, 07:41
I like to use less 32020s and like 2 more mana charms.
vouch. although i use 5 ^^

olba; swedish >>> you ahah.

Ce Olba
04-06-2006, 11:07
vouch. although i use 5 ^^

olba; swedish >>> you ahah.

You could actually use up to 9-10 of them without a big change. Since I think you have 11k ar with dual ravens and pub setup with 33x 32020s. There's one unnecessary thousand, so you could replace those with 20/17s. Would result in 406 more mana, with ravens that's 836 on lvl 91, with angelics that's 645 mana, with 2x 80 mana rings that's 1027 mana. Pretty cool, eh?

And yes, Swedish>me, got 5½ on 4-10 scale from this exam all the 9th grades took. That was quite a factor when determining my grade. I used to actually be good in Swedish.

Imbecile
04-06-2006, 13:06
vouch. although i use 5 ^^

olba; swedish >>> you ahah.

Although the 2 x mana charms he uses has 70 mana, PWNED SWE NAP

morotsjos
04-06-2006, 13:15
You could actually use up to 9-10 of them without a big change. Since I think you have 11k ar with dual ravens and pub setup with 33x 32020s. There's one unnecessary thousand, so you could replace those with 20/17s. Would result in 406 more mana, with ravens that's 836 on lvl 91, with angelics that's 645 mana, with 2x 80 mana rings that's 1027 mana. Pretty cool, eh?

And yes, Swedish>me, got 5½ on 4-10 scale from this exam all the 9th grades took. That was quite a factor when determining my grade. I used to actually be good in Swedish.
why are you stuck up with the number 10k? more is obviously better. i have 9500 ar since i use 5x 11 lightres scs as well.

Ce Olba
04-06-2006, 13:57
why are you stuck up with the number 10k? more is obviously better. i have 9500 ar since i use 5x 11 lightres scs as well.

I do not know. Somehow I've gotten the idea that 10k is a good number. Myself my barb has 9377 AR with pubsetup at the moment. Still needs some upgrading. Even though I do not think that I'll need any more AR, can already hit all the necessary points, except for my fcr rings, which are still pretty crappy. Well, my point is, less AR-> more stack/mana. If it doesn't lower your chance to hit by a lot, it's always worth it, since the +max dmg isn't necessary, but it is nice.