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Uchiha Sasuke
02-06-2006, 03:10
Which does more damage with a zealot?
A ebotdtm with fort or a...
GriefZ with fort and a pheonix?

krischan
02-06-2006, 10:21
Even the crappiest Grief will deal more damage than the best BotD in a one-hander.

Perfect EBotZ (415%ed): 47.5*1.5*5.15=366 average damage
Perfectly crappy Grief BA: 47.5+340=387.5 average damage
Perfectly crappy Grief PB: 33+340=373 average damage

Fortitude and Phoenix will increase these damage values equally. They provide off-weapon %ed, just like auras, skill bonuses or stats bonuses.

For a zealot, use a Grief PB because of its speed. You won't need any extra IAS for 4 frames zealing with fanaticism while without fanaticism you need a total of 72% (e.g. 32+% from Grief, 20% from Highlord's and 20% from Andy's). For a BA, the breakpoints are at 60% with L20 fana and an unreachable 200% without fana.

VisMaior
02-06-2006, 11:11
He asked a Ebotd thunder maul, wich in this case would do:106.5 Avg*1,5*5,15=822,7 average damage per hit.

Edit: for OP:http://dpw.bounceme.net/damage_calc.html

krischan
02-06-2006, 12:23
Ah, OK, I asked myself what he meant with tm. I didn't expect that he intends to use a two-handed weapon for a zealot. IMO that's not a good idea at all, but that's not the question here.

Without a shield, BotD is the better choice because without blocking you will suffer 4 times as much blockable attacks (melee hits, various ranged attacks), so you need far more leech. That might work in PvM (although I'm sure a paladin with a shield and a one-hander would be far better), but in PvP I'm almost sure it won't work for a zealot.

VisMaior
02-06-2006, 13:21
Also, I believe it does less damage than grief+phoenix.

Uchiha Sasuke
03-06-2006, 09:28
I'll just use the damage calculator cause I have no idea what's going on... :tongue:

Zerker? Well thanks for the help.

*edit* : Anyone know how much ED a maxed sacrifice/zeal/fanat gives?


**edit to the edit** : Nevermind, i found the numbers....
With DS at 63
16k dmg total with tm
11k dmg total with grief zerker...

Scary....