feedback on equipment choice

[promnv]

i'm starting my first barb, and it will be a concentrate barb.
This is the equipment i've chosen so far for endgame:

helm: arreats face
belt: nosferatu's coil
boots:gore rider's
amu: highlord's
shield: stormshield
weapon: doom axe
armor: duress
gloves: something with ias (like the disciple gloves?)
rings: raven+something with duall leach
charms: ???+11/20torch

really, which skillers? i think mastery skillers would boost my resistances/deadly strike/defence, but warcry skillers would be nice too as they improve health/def too..:undecided: a mix maybe?

i'm afraid that with this equip i will have problems with elemental damage, especially glooms, so a tgods will be in my cube at all times!

[KillaBrothers]

May I ask what is a purpose of your barb?

I'm a little surprised with weapon choise - doom?
wielding one weapon it's a strange choise for both - PvM and PvP...
(Doom is expencive and not that effetvive - unless dual wielding)

You mentioned Glooms, so I assume you're PvM - but what exactly do you wish to achieve with this barb??

[promnv]

hmm, probably botd then. i concidered doom for the hf aura. but why would you recomend no shield? what's the advantage of dual wielding, when not using double-strike or frenzy?

its a pvm barb that should be abled to run hell baal. Not for mf, just for the fun of it.

[Halciet]

You're fine with a shield, especailly as a conc barb. Dual Wielding is only for frenzy and whirlwind.

You won't have to worry about Gloam elemental damage as badly if you put a point in Taunt. Taunt crushes ranged AI, so the gloams will come up to melee range, from which they will not cast the lightning.

-Hal

[KremBanan]

nvm
10 char

[inanefedaykin]

Doom is nifty, but no wias means it's almost useless.

[promnv]

about my skill distribution, it will be like this:

20 concentrate
20 battle orders
20 a weapon mastery
20 in ??? (the quide sais shout, but is that much defence neccesary? how about more in something else, or maxing bash?)

1 in:
shout
battle command
battle cry
tount
howl
natural resist
iron skin
increase stamina
increase speed
leap attack

oh, and i think ill go for death as weapon (nice name, nice cb, nice ds)

[KillaBrothers]

Hey

I didn't recomend dual wielding with conc barb. I just said that doom isn't a good choise for a one handed weapon/shield combo.

I wouldnt choose Death either - no ias bad...
BotD and Grief arr weapon kings now. Oath is cheap and grate imho (but you're not looking for a cheap one I suppose:laugh: ).

about skills:
Your Concentrate has one maxed out synergie - Bo. It's the grater of the two dmg synergies. Maxing Bash at this point will not give you a significant dmg boost, as your dmg should be very impressive allready. I'd go Shaut.

And you get some spare point after your skill plan - right?
So you can put another 2-3 point into Natural Resist (no significant resist boost, but hey - not a decrease either), or just throw them into Iron Skin.

Good Luck

[promnv]

the guide discusses the restribution of 90 points, so there's something left, of course.

i dont like the fact that there is no other good option than shout though. 1pt in shout + iron skin + concentrate should give significant defence in pvm (keep in mind i'm using a shield here). why would i need more defence? i think i'm going to try this built first with only 1 pt in shout. But i guess you are more experienced, so i will soon come to realize that it's not enough defence..:tongue:

What the cheap part is concerned, this is endgame, so it may be expensive. Im not verry rich, but if i spend some more time, i should be abled to accumulate the ists required for botd/grief. However as you might have noticed, im triyng to create something not completely standard (it only has to be abled to finish baal runs, that's all, no pvp-ing, no übers). but i dont want his not-standardness to make him too weak of course.

[KillaBrothers]

The defence if enough for solo PvP perhaps... While you're attacking. But you run out of mana sometimes, or jus run through a group of monsters (no defence boost from conc, or running - only 25% chance to block)... Extra defence woun't heart.

The best thing about Shaut is - it's a party friendly skill.

Basicly - you could spend those point somewere else - it's just that I see no point in maxing Bash for this built. I just think, that IF to make a conc barb, make him a pure conc = anourmous defence...

But hey - in the end - the choise is yours to make

(probably not much help from what I said, huh?) :wink3:

[promnv]

perhaps its an idea to max ww or zerk? create a hybrid or something. should be fun to be abled to switch sometimes..

i think ill go for a ww/conc hybrid, as conc is rather slow vs groups and ww rather slow vs bosses (i think).

should this affect my equip choice?

[TheWaysOfEvil]

I have a hybrid Barbie w/ WW and Berserk. One setup of BotD & Doom for physical, the other of Famine & Gerke Pavise for Berserk magic attack. Of course Berserk works great for A/D-knights, physical immuners, etc. But I have to retreat and switch between setups. I take my time cutting through A/D knights and may have to retreat yet again if non-immunes or combinations of minions :rolleyes: show up. Besides worldstone and chaos sanctuary maps where A/D-knights loiter, the rest is cake! :azn: