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KremBanan
29-05-2006, 12:26
1.Equipment
Weapon: Windforce "Shael"
Helm: Andariels Visage 30str/10%ll "15%IAS/30%Fire Res jewel"
Amulet: Atmas Scarab
Armor: Fortitude
Belt: Razortail
Gloves: LoH
Ring: Ravenfrost 20dex
Ring: Ravenfrost 20dex
Boots: Gore Rider
Charms:
Anni
Torch
Gc's 10 max dam/AR/(FRW/life/FHR)
Sc's 3 max dam/AR/(FRW/life/FHR) + some 11%fireres/lightres

A1 ColdRogue Merc
Weapon: Faith made in 15%ed Great Bow (must have minimum lvl 13 Fana)
Armor: Fortitude
Helm: Andariels "15%IAS/Fire Res"



2.Skillspoints
20 Strafe
20 Guided
20 Penetrate
20 Valkyrie
5 Multishot
3 Pierce
rest in Critical Strike(up to lvl 16 after +skills)


3.Statpoints
Strenght: Enough for gear
Dexterity: The rest here
Vitality: None
Energy: None


Quick and easy, have a nice time with your Ama:thumbsup:

Omikron8
30-05-2006, 00:28
20 strafe + 20 GA

is this a joke ?

KremBanan
30-05-2006, 01:40
20 strafe + 20 GA

is this a joke ?
No.
I know maxing Guided Arrow may seem like a waste for many people. But this is PvM, so pumping D/E/A is not needed, pierce is over 100%, decoy is unneccesary as your Valk is strong enough already, critical strike is a waste from lvl 16. That leaves the highest damage skill for a Bowama. And when you are reaching the last bp for GA with Wf, you will have a very fast bosskilling skill.
And you dont have to choose what kind of bowama you are going for, here you have all 3 skills working very nice together in the same build.

More feedback is appriciated:smiley:

Lyrs
30-05-2006, 05:45
Strafe deals more dmg over time vrs Guided against a single target.

KremBanan
30-05-2006, 09:30
Strafe deals more dmg over time vrs Guided against a single target.
If the target stands still yes. But for example Diablo and Baal do move around abit. Then your strafe arrows just wont hit them, Guided always does.

Sirinus
30-05-2006, 18:22
thats y you make your valk make them stand still... if you valk is the level it is at it can stand a few hits from baal or diablo... and that makes them stand still

Flayed One
30-05-2006, 18:39
does strafe really deal more damage then guided vs standing still target? If you don't have crushing blow it's 3/4 dmg shot per 6 frames(strafe) and full dmg shot per 7 frames (guided) if you hit 7 frame guided breakpoint. Seems to me guided should do more damage?...

windwingwind
30-05-2006, 20:16
So the merc is enough for Physical immune?

Kijya
30-05-2006, 22:48
So the merc is enough for Physical immune?
I can tell you it ain't ... but
Amulet: Atmas Scarab
is ... at least most of the time :grin:

Then you do have a low level magic and cold arrow in case nothing else works :rolleyes:

Omikron8
31-05-2006, 00:06
does strafe really deal more damage then guided vs standing still target? If you don't have crushing blow it's 3/4 dmg shot per 6 frames(strafe) and full dmg shot per 7 frames (guided) if you hit 7 frame guided breakpoint. Seems to me guided should do more damage?...

strafe per 6 frames, what do you mean? even with significant next delay problems at 8/2 an 8/2 strafe will easily beat even an 7/2 GA against a standing single target

now against fast moving targets like diablo then yes GA wins as you need to stay mobile (LBoD + zon = dead zon)

1 pt GA is fine for pvm as you only use it in special cases against a few bosses, hybridize with 20 light fury + charged strike if you really want to put extra pts somewhere

and if you have a faith merc (or faith on yourself) you only need 1 base penetrate, 400+ dex + dual ravens + fanat aura + boosted penetrate will give you over 10k AR

marcello
31-05-2006, 00:06
This isnt a guide, more like a showoff with what you are using, or what you plan to use.

No other gear is listed? Not much of a guide.

And why ever invest 20pts in GA, max FA instead.

Junts
31-05-2006, 00:42
So the merc is enough for Physical immune?

Atma's Scarab = Amp Dampage = no PI.

Omikron8
31-05-2006, 02:47
1 pt light bolt + titans on switch = PI dead = no need for atma's

if you see a LI+ PI run

KremBanan
31-05-2006, 11:48
This isnt a guide, more like a showoff with what you are using, or what you plan to use.

No other gear is listed? Not much of a guide.
This a quick 30 second guide to what equipment you should be wearing to optimize you speed/damage when using the Wf/Faithmerc combo.
And why ever invest 20pts in GA, max FA instead.
Because when Amp triggers you will take down Diablo, Baal etc quicker.

Relativity
31-05-2006, 11:58
Wouldnt you have a better chance to trigger amp on a boss with strafe? o.O

Flayed One
31-05-2006, 12:14
strafe per 6 frames, what do you mean? even with significant next delay problems at 8/2 an 8/2 strafe will easily beat even an 7/2 GA against a standing single target



You may be right, I'm just wondering how is that. next delay prevents you from hitting the target for the next 4 frames, so it would look like that:

timer 0 1 2 3 4 5 6
2 frames hit miss miss hit
3 frames hit miss hit

so if you have 2 or 3 frame strafe you will "hit" every 6 frames. by "hit" I mean you actually have a chance to hit :tongue: . thats why Im wondering why 2 frame strafe is better then 7 frame GA. by pure calculation it seems GA should do more damage. Strafe would slightly more often trigger effects like crushing blow if you hit with all arrows that are capable of hitting. On the other hand you have a better chance of hitting the target with GA(always hits, and homing). Or is my understanding of next delay wrong?

thulsa
02-06-2006, 17:49
This a quick 30 second guide to what equipment you should be wearing to optimize you speed/damage when using the Wf/Faithmerc combo.

First, I am a long time lurker, for many years, and finally decided to join, so greetings to you, Krem, and to all else.

Second, I have found your "quick 30 second" guide to be very useful, of worth and merit. A great "quick" guide. :thumbsup:



Because when Amp triggers you will take down Diablo, Baal etc quicker.
Very true, the question, of course, is 'when.' :wink3:
The difference I have found in my own zon playing style is that GA does not need to be 'targeted' to hit, whereas, FA does, per se'.

the boss
04-06-2006, 07:19
LF/Strafe please...