Help with MF Hammerdin Build

[XAndrewX]

OK So I just started a hammerdin, and I want to make him a great mf char. What equip should I get for him?

[Palm]

Check the guide sticky. :) Why a hammerdin may I ask? The only reasons I would consider a class other than sorc for MF are A) very specific targets like cows/travincal council; and B) hardcore mode, where something like a barb that is slow but safe has its pros and cons.

[dlee]

Check the guide sticky. :) Why a hammerdin may I ask? The only reasons I would consider a class other than sorc for MF are A) very specific targets like cows/travincal council; and B) hardcore mode, where something like a barb that is slow but safe has its pros and cons.


i beg to differ... i dont like sorc mfers cause you cant mf hell easily at all and fcr sucks w/o shard. personally i like barb mfers /w good gear and stacked leeches. kills pretty easy, never need to be ontop of pots and much more life than an hdin. but also prefer hdin to sorc for hell. if you have a mh(most, including me dont) i guess a sorc would be a good mf for andy runs.

using a barb to do trav, portal over arcane and the dude that gaurds cain is best way to mf i think. close second is hdin. then only if you use mh or got lots of fhr to not tele into monsters and get stuck (harder to get res/mf with fhr) a sorc would be best.

for gear pretty much i'd have to know how much you can afford. heres ideal gear

1 bwhorl
1 bcirc
imp's or btramps (imps have more res, btramps have gf)
gskin or topaz armor
3 topaz helm
lgt ammy (priz mf, + skill is a +), i dont know if theres a nice hdin mf ammy dupe.
unique mf belt (perfect gold find)
40% chancies
shard
mila shield or +2 39 priz

if you cant afford much you should stay away from trav and use the following

2X 28-30mf nagels
shard
gskin
priz ammy with mf OR +1 ammy with mf OR +1 priz mf
30 frw 25 mf boots (res is +)
35-40 chancies
unique mf belt (get as much GF as you can)
3 topaz helm
mila or ward shield

hope this helps

[Palm]

You can use shard if you want it's not that big a deal. After the first 100% MF returns being to drop sharply. Problem with barbs is you'll probably not want to use a shield and you also need AR from your gear set up. And they are slow. Problem with Pals is same problem everyone else has: lack of BO :P You can self-BO using 2 computers or windows xp and 2 copies of the game but this is tedious. What sorc has on all other classes is mobility. Even with less MF the sorc is a better farmer of act boss because it does runs in a fraction of the time, i.e less MF but more runs. And you dont need to have MH to use a MF sorc(??). MH probably works against the sorc class because it cuts out the map searching part which is what the sorc excels at.

[XAndrewX]

Umm my hdin build is all about life and energy. I dont want gskin because it takes close to 100 str. Im getting my str to about 70-80. Dex to 50-60. and the rest vit and energy. My str only needs to b eup enough to wear the equip thast necissary

[WarlockCC]

Umm my hdin build is all about life and energy. I dont want gskin because it takes close to 100 str. Im getting my str to about 70-80. Dex to 50-60. and the rest vit and energy. My str only needs to b eup enough to wear the equip thast necissary
I used to mix the str req of the Silks and Goldskin up. After many beatings and electro-shock therapy by Dacar and Gorny, I finaly memorized them correctly :

Goldskin :
Defense: 356-405 (varies)(Base Defense: 140-161)
Required Level: 28
Required Strength: 80
Durability: 70
+120-150% Enhanced Defense
+2 To Light Radius
All Resistances +35
Attacker Takes Damage of 10*
100% Extra Gold From Monsters
(Only Spawns In Patch 1.09 or later)

Silks :
Defense: 468-514 (varies)(Base Defense: 218-233)
Required Level: 28
Required Strength: 100
Durability: 60
+100-120% Enhanced Defense (varies)
+1 To All Skills
5% Mana Stolen Per Hit
+2 To Light Radius
(Only Spawns In Patch 1.09 or later)

Don't let them see you typed that. You might get the same treatment. I do not wish this upon anybody.

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personally, I don't have GS on my hammerdin either, he just doesn't have the str for it.
I use a garb and Full Irathas, 1 SoJ, +1 shield with 20 pris and -20 req, and I think a 14 str FC ring. Oh, and some +2 pala sword thing.

[Dagnome]

I dont know why you would make a build with energy in it beacuse you really need to extra hitpoints. My friend uses his dueling gear, a gull, and the pretty basic mf gear for his din. He weares a g skin from time to time if he needs to res's, but you can use a gull to mf with. Id keep one fcr ring on and a 30 nagel. You need to remember especialy if your trying to hell cs that theres no point to even trying if you cant survive. Feel out your din, see hwat he can take then worry about getting him ready for mfing. Thats my suggestion.

[WarlockCC]

Ah, yes, some solid advise there from Dagnome. Which I should have had for many of my earlier chars. :)

My hdin is almost all vit, last I played with him, I was putting a bit of str in him so he could use other rings. And so he wasn't dependant on a Crushflange, which he needed till level 80 at least.

On the up side, the crushflange also gives 50 fire res, so it's not all bad. Just doesn't have any +skills, that's all.

[Byaxident]

I have to agree with Dlee regarding mf barbs. They are in my opinion much better than sorcs at mfing, in so many ways. The only thing going for the sorc is how fast she can potentially get to an act boss - assuming we're talking about hell mfing, the only viable options are andariel and mephisto. I have done countless andy and meph runs with sorcs and barbs and to be honest the drops are in general of much lower quality than what you can get in hell cs.
Mfing can be narrowed down to just a few factors: speed, number of drops and obviously QUALITY of those drops. Hell cs is without a shadow of a doubt the place where high level items drop the most and while csing you know where you're going, unlike catacombs and durance(unless you have mh). Of course sorcs are useless in hell cs if you're doing runs by yourself so the only 2 options for that are hdin or barb. Hdin have more killing power than barbs but they will get to the center cs star slower than a barb and they lack a really important skill which is find item. Anyway, Id go as far as saying that barbs can clear cs as fast or faster than a hdin in a 1 player game.
IMO, with the experience ive had mfing (thousands of mfing runs in cs and pretty much everywhere else) Id have to say that ive gotten most of the best drops off of the superuniques in cs, especially DE SEIS, of course being able to pop those guys is a big factor, but theres just something about de seis heh.
Maxed find item mf barb ftw.

[Dacar92]

I used to mix the str req of the Silks and Goldskin up. After many beatings and electro-shock therapy by Dacar and Gorny, I finaly memorized them correctly


I am glad the therapy worked. You obviously have no memory of some parts of the therapy, and that is a good thing.

I like your sense of humor. Your posts are enjoyable to read. Maybe that is an as yet undiscovered side effect of the therapy. Hmmm...

[The Butcher]

Ok my 10 cents worth..
Hammedin is best mf for reasons stated earlier -hes easy to solo cs and just make build with as much vitality as poss to wear armor - get a mage plate wit life/duel res (pref not poi) if u can afford it sock with topaz use a 3 socket topaz crown and gull - thats all u need- rest standard pala gear 2 x fcrs magefist glove and P2 shield/amulet - Mf cs and yes the deseis an the 'fector give best quality drops in my opinion too. One more thing which hasnt been mentioned but is important is your char level - anything over level 86 is fine but higher the better. PS Build all life skills standard all hammer syns til maxed then share between holy shield and redemption (bit more to holy shield)

[Kiwi Legend]

Ok my 10 cents worth..
Hammedin is best mf for reasons stated earlier -hes easy to solo cs and just make build with as much vitality as poss to wear armor - get a mage plate wit life/duel res (pref not poi) if u can afford it sock with topaz use a 3 socket topaz crown and gull - thats all u need- rest standard pala gear 2 x fcrs magefist glove and P2 shield/amulet - Mf cs and yes the deseis an the 'fector give best quality drops in my opinion too. One more thing which hasnt been mentioned but is important is your char level - anything over level 86 is fine but higher the better. PS Build all life skills standard all hammer syns til maxed then share between holy shield and redemption (bit more to holy shield)

I never put more then 1 skill in redem, I just dont see the advantage considering your going to have atleast +3 skills from items.

The remaining Skills in a high lvl din are fairly useless. I tend to just throw them in HS for the small added def