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xXxXshadowXxXx
07-05-2006, 04:01
Okay, start is had 2 accounts one ladder one non, had finally obtained some items i always tried to get..then got tied up with other things and well they're gone :S

In anycase a friend of mine got me back into playing, and i decided to be a summoner first as i have absolutly nothing, so does my friend (SCLadder East)

Well my problem is, i am now lvl 57, and am not sure what to put points into now..I remember making a summoner that cruised through hell..but i completly forgot how i made him, and from reading different guides none seemed to be like the necro i had and loved :undecided: In anycase, i am not sure where to go with the necro now. I have 105 stat points un-used, and 4 skill points not used, i am about to start nightmare baal runs.

My current gear is - 27MF tarnhelm, (holding for a friend, sig armor, sheild and boots, not sure when he wants them back [he also just started again lol ] ) sanders gloves, a 9 mf ring and a 15 mf ring, a +1 necro skills ammy, and a Carin shard wand..instead of my spirit sword.

Stat points are as in screen shots-NVM screenshots come out horrible and messed.

Summoning-
26-skeleton mastery
26-Summon skeleton
7-rest of skills in summon tree (+6 skills from items)

Poison and Bone-
5-Teeth (+4 from items
5-Corpse Explosion ( +4 from items)

Curses-
All curses level 5 (+4 from items)

So the advice i need is, where should i place my stat and skill points? Keeping in mind i have only what i listed as equipment, i quest with my friend who is a blizzard sorc.(yes, he also started again -_- ) and we are either going to start NightMare baal runs or do some Nightmare MF runs..

Any help is welcomed and i would be thankful..

~Shadow

EDIT-oops..forgot to list stat points :rolleyes:

75-Strength
25-Dex
80-Vitality
70-Energy

Stompwampa
07-05-2006, 04:29
First: STOP putting points into energy. YOu've already wasted all those points there. Summoners don't need mana...especially end game summoners. Just carry some big blut pots on your belt and you'll be fine.

Put EVERY other point into vitality, or perhaps dexterity if you want max block....but only go that route if you plan on fighting along side your skeletons.

I would max Raise Skeleton Mage. I use mages and I love them. Also, max Corpse Explosion for the huge radius....monsters drop like flies with that thing.

Put the rest of your points into summon resist....not too many though...maybe 10 at the most...since that skill has diminishing returns, you'll get the best benefit with your +skills as well.

Use Clay Golem on bosses, or on everything if you want. That's what I do.

HOpe this helps.

EDIT: as for gear, try to shop for a wand with +skeletons or skeleton mastry. And be on the lookout for shrunken heads...some of the rare ones can spawn some pretty godly stats that'll make your summoner rock the hizzouse.

xXxXshadowXxXx
07-05-2006, 04:44
my wand is +2 summoning, +1 necro skills, +life + mana, FCR..

Yeah the energy was wrong i know..just didnt seem like i put that many in there >_>

Summon resist is lvl 7 already with +skills, and next level would be 54 from 52 -_-

I've put all of my stat points into vitality now except for 20, incase i need them for an item or something.. I was thinking of maxing skeletal mage, but was unsure... and i was considering putting some points into golem. Corpse explosion i guess i could max, but am still not 100% sure...

Anyway thanks for the help..Any other advice on this is welcomed..

Stompwampa
07-05-2006, 04:49
don't put any points into golems. 1pt in clay and 1pt in golem master is plenty...even for hell. clay can tank any monsters just fine, plus he slows monsters. And if he dies, he's a cheap respawn.

Max mages. people have different opinions, but I haven't regretted using them. The slow monsters (cold) and prevent monster heal (poison) and they'll kill of the physical immunes you run into.

Plus, if you get an infinity runeword for your merc, you'll be clear sailing.

xXxXshadowXxXx
07-05-2006, 05:01
So max mages, then max corpse explosion?

Forgot to mention i am planning to solo mf hell with him..and occasionally mf with my friend the blizz sorc.

Also isnt infinity kind of hard to get "Ber + Mal + Ber + Ist" >_> i have never gotten ber's before..found or otherewise.

Once again thanks for the help. Such a friendly community here :grin:

Stompwampa
07-05-2006, 05:21
So max mages, then max corpse explosion?

Forgot to mention i am planning to solo mf hell with him..and occasionally mf with my friend the blizz sorc.

Also isnt infinity kind of hard to get "Ber + Mal + Ber + Ist" >_> i have never gotten ber's before..found or otherewise.

Once again thanks for the help. Such a friendly community here :grin:

it deonst' really matter which order you max mages or CE...so long as your skellies and skellie mastery is maxed, you'll be fine...if you want killing speed, max CE, if you want a bigger army, max mages...either that or alternate skill points on them

I use my summoner for hell MF'ing and it works great.

Yes, infinity is hard to come by if you make it from scratch, but trading for the runes and items isn't TOO hard, once you get some stuff that's wanted, you should be alright...just make sure to only trade with people on these forums, as b.net people are idiots.

xXxXshadowXxXx
07-05-2006, 05:37
I think i'll up CE more than Mages, like 2 CE 1 Mages, Thanks again for the help, and yeah i've noticed people on b.net being idiots...too often >_>"

Stompwampa
07-05-2006, 05:42
Welcom to the forums by the way :grin: