Some Questions for Pkers and Low Duelers

[Lord Penguin]

Ok im working out a project and id like to know some things about certain mele pk builds. I know damage and life differs for different lvls in So if you could answer by lvl it would be very very helpfull.. like at lvl 9 100-500 damage lvl 24 xx - xxx damage etc. ALso consider each build haveing good to godly gears.

1. How much does a 2 handed charger do and how much life does he have?

2. How much does a 1handed charger do and how much life(i know hed probly have clegs so.. with and without deadly strike i guess)?

3. How much would a zealot do per hit or per cycle and how much life does he have?

4. How much would a fury druid do per hit or per cycle and how much life?

5. How much does a eth yari barb do(this is the top of the lien for low lvl barbs yes?) and how much life would he have?

6. How much do the various low lvl mele assasins do and how much life do they have?

7. Also id like to know from the chargers.. When you run up for that first charge if you miss/get blocked do they get knocked back and you continue to charge or.. what do you do?

8. Do most low mele pkers have maxed resists in normal once they are on the hunt?

9. Do most of these types of mele pks put on alot of elemental damage?

Ive never really got into pking.. always thought about it but for one reason or another was detered. I know this may take a min to answer my questions but it will be much appreciated :cloud9:

Please help

[Cleglaw_Himself]

1. How much does a 2 handed charger do and how much life does he have?

Lvl 27 - eth insight partizan - can't remember
Lvl 30 - eth upped snap - listed 5k+ max
Lvl 35 - eth upped driver - ?

2. How much does a 1handed charger do and how much life(i know hed probly have clegs so.. with and without deadly strike i guess)?

Some examples:

Lvl 15 - 1hand, 75% block. Life 684, Charge dmg 96-1055 then add 50% ds,
Zeal dmg (5hits) 59-509 then add 50% ds.

Lvl 34 - 1hand, 75% block. Life 950, Charge dmg 894-3878 then add 40% ds, Zeal dmg (5hits) 321-1379 then add 40% ds.


3. How much would a zealot do per hit or per cycle and how much life does he have?

I have always used charge, but zealots use twitch. Dmg much the same as above.


4. How much would a fury druid do per hit or per cycle and how much life?

Not sure.

5. How much does a eth yari barb do(this is the top of the lien for low lvl barbs yes?) and how much life would he have?

Life 1400 estimate. Can't remember dmg.

6. How much do the various low lvl mele assasins do and how much life do they have?

Life - similar to paladins. ~600 for 9-16, 800 for 18-21.
Dmg - similar - but an asn lvl 9-16 cannot 1hit a paladin of the same lvl unless amp'd.

7. Also id like to know from the chargers.. When you run up for that first charge if you miss/get blocked do they get knocked back and you continue to charge or.. what do you do?

Cry. Or charge away, charge back. Or change to zeal.

8. Do most low mele pkers have maxed resists in normal once they are on the hunt?

No. Some duelers do, but a lot of pkers don't usually worry about saving anya.


9. Do most of these types of mele pks put on alot of elemental damage?

No. Usually max dmg jewels. As elemental can be resisted. Pure dmg can't.

Hope this helps a bit.

[Matt]

To elaborate a little bit.

The fury druid... At level 37, with top notch gear, mine was doing 3.8k Listed, plus 15% deadly strike, and had just short of 3k life.

I'd say 1400 is low on the yari barb's life. Much closer to 2k if not more seems more probable.

[Edeas_Knight]

If you want to make a very cheap, fun, and very effective 2h charger pker then here is a little mini guide for ya.

Lvl 30:
Str:Enough for Bonesnap/Gothic Plate(not sure which is higher)
Dex:Enough for Bonesnap(if it even needs any)
Vit: All of the rest
Eng:None

Eth Up'd Bonesnap(I hel'd mine cuz i didn't have any decent jewels)
4xprubied Gothic plate
3xprubied helm
Bloodfists
Sanders boots
Deaths/Sigons/Life belt(I think you can get 60-70 life on a magic belt under lvl 30 from norm Larzuk)
Angelic ringx2
Angelic ammy

Skills:
20: Might(max this first)
Rest: Charge

My lvl 30 charger had 1k+ life and 6k+ max listed dmg with this setup and crappy charms.

[Lord Penguin]

Thank you this is all helpfull.. When you guys say listed damage i imagine you mean before the pvp penalty. If and when i complete this project i will elaborate on it. This will also help im sure the ppl who are making these pk builds as they will know what to shoot for. Thank you.

[Matt]

Thank you this is all helpfull.. When you guys say listed damage i imagine you mean before the pvp penalty. If and when i complete this project i will elaborate on it. This will also help im sure the ppl who are making these pk builds as they will know what to shoot for. Thank you.

You're welcome. And yes, listed damage is the damage shown in your character screen, so it is before the PvP penalty.

[abbithedog]

7. Also id like to know from the chargers.. When you run up for that first charge if you miss/get blocked do they get knocked back and you continue to charge or.. what do you do?

8. Do most low mele pkers have maxed resists in normal once they are on the hunt?



You miss a charge, you chug a potion and re-try. Back off a bit first. My level 27 charger (see related thread floating around here somewhere) has 52 mana or so, and at 10 mana a charge, that gets sucked down pretty quick. You're going for the one-hit kill, not dueling here.

As for res, you're probably getting PAd anyways, might as well ask for anya. Never hurts. I like to go after level 30-40ish chars, and some of those single-element sorcs (key hunters, mephers, etc.) pack quite a wallop. Every little bit helps. Don't bother getting them maxed, though. You're wasting precious life and damage with max res gear.

[KnownAsJug]

I would like to state for the record Zealers>>Chargers 9 out of 10 of the duels ty.

[HelzCaretaker]

I would like to state for the record Zealers>>Chargers 9 out of 10 of the duels ty.

only 9/10? if same lvl/gear etc I'd say 98% zealers/chargers but they lack the 1 hit kill that chickeners require.

[NightShade]

3. How much would a zealot do per hit or per cycle and how much life does he have?

- Depends on level and crushing blow potential. Fill us in a little more

4. How much would a fury druid do per hit or per cycle and how much life?
-See above


6. How much do the various low lvl mele assasins do and how much life do they have?
-Damage output (depending) could hit about 600 pvp or so..At max with great gear. Life you're looking at the 500-600 area.


7. Also id like to know from the chargers.. When you run up for that first charge if you miss/get blocked do they get knocked back and you continue to charge or.. what do you do?
- Potion, Charge back away from them and then charge them again.

8. Do most low mele pkers have maxed resists in normal once they are on the hunt?
- No. Most don't. That's why sorcs would be scary. A sorc in pvm gear could throw an orb on you and really hurt you.

9. Do most of these types of mele pks put on alot of elemental damage?
-Unless you're a charged striker, no.




I've been away for a long, long time so all of this is subject to change

For Pking purposes, bad builds :

Fury druid : You won't catch anyone.
Whirlbarbs : You probably won't 1shot them, depending what you're aiming for.
Leapers : If you get pked by a leaper, quit.



Dueling is completely different. They will stand toe to toe with you...You have the chance to connect with an uber fury hit or something equally fun.

For Pking purposes you can most times skip out completely on vit and keep your damage output really high. Eg : Pure dext kicker.

[AzaZaz]

ouch to leapers.

not the best for running down and tracking an opponent, but if you get a lvl 30 leaper hostilling lvl 40's they may stick around and fight....and they surely will regret it.

Ask Rah, he might remember way back in the day coming into a game to pk and getting pkk'd by a leaper.

[ADSL]

only 9/10? if same lvl/gear etc I'd say 98% zealers/chargers but they lack the 1 hit kill that chickeners require.

If the charger isnt 2 handed its abit more even...

But zealots still rape chargers and leapers... just not as bad when one have a shield.