Problems with my assa vs palas

[wasonlp]

Hi.

I have a Kicker assa. Maxed Venom, DF and WoF... and DT to make 4 kicks.

I use 2claws (Malice+Jades) vs Sorcs/casters, and Weapon+Shield (Azure Umed + Storm or PhaseBlade 6eths+SS) vs Meles.

But is near imposible to kill Hammerdins or Smiters. I know its hard, but i whant to know if there eny way to kill Smiter and/or Hammers with a kicker sin.

My wear vs meles normaly is:
Azure (or 6eths PB)
Storm shield (+verdu = full DR)
Enni AP
Andariel Visage
Upped Gores
Draculs
Verdungos
2xRavens
Metalgreed 450ar

Thx for answers and sorry about my bad eanglis :undecided:

Cu

[pedu]

I would think that its rather impossible to kill a smiter with a kicker. You need to be close to kick him, and when hes close, well, he smites you. Maybe with chaos, you could ww away. But ive never made a kicker, so dont take my word for it... :rolleyes:

[Speederländer]

You'll never kill any non-crap smiters with a kicker. It's not possible, don't waste time trying to figure out a way to do it.

Hammerdins are possible, but difficult. Your DF and teleport will always land you at their hammer release point. You have to focus on a single kick sequence, placing OW on them, and getting clear. Make sure you don't tele or DF until they are in trap-MB stun. Your AR has to be 15K or better. They will block 75% of your kicks and DFs so every shot has to count.

Hammers will still have a heavy advantage over you, however.

[Duelskull2]

for hammers you could figure out a good widow/fcr setup and just defensive ga them to transfer ow/poison.

[UsDVS]

yes its possible, my kicker does it, i kill h dins too. very hard but possible, keep in mind smart smiters will always win though. The game plan is quite simple yet strong. massive stunlock hit and runs. basically you have 5 traps mindblast him
and be close so he trys to walk smite u, that way u can give a kick and back up, usually hes in recovery long enough to get a set of kicks off before he smites u, so if u just keep him stunlocked do 1 kick and run and repeat u can win. but if hes smart, he will use charge, in which case u lose because u can no longer stunlock him, he just charges straight at u and smites u b4 u can get enough traps / mindblast him. Just all in who ur dueling/ how u duel.

My gear very expensive tho, i use coa, fort, phoenix, LW, gores/2 dancers, dungos, dual ravens, metal grid, and dracs. I can kill most smiters in 3-5 kicks depending on if they went high dex or high life.

edit: i can even kill ww barbs, VERY VERY hard, almost never happens too, you have to be able to time SO well and be SO lucky to do this. You have to be able to dodge ww, then come and kick them right when they end it, but the trouble is, most people just ww back and forth with no pause, in cases as these u have to make them run out of mana or make them ww, chase u, ww, in which case u can stunlock kick and run vs that

[wasonlp]

Thx for answers ;)

Very nice idea to use a WM vs Hammers... i will try it :P At the moment i use Blade fury to OW on thems, but its a very slowly skill, and if they use tele/charge im dead ^ ^

UsDVS .. you use MB to stunlock?? or only the traps... I use only the WoF, but no the MB (i dont like this skill :|)... But with your gear you have no fcr so probably you dont use MB... so witch trap you use?? and how you can lock theys??

Eniway, you make much more dmg (forty+phoenix, etc...), so probably i cant do the same with mi gear :(

Thx all again ;)

Cu

[jmsplat]

I've never fought a kicker personally, but have you tried teleing to his blind spot and repededly kicking? IIRC kicks can reach 2 frames and your damage should be enough to stunlock him.

[Ce Olba]

I've never fought a kicker personally, but have you tried teleing to his blind spot and repededly kicking? IIRC kicks can reach 2 frames and your damage should be enough to stunlock him.

With Maxed DTalon and lots of +MA's, the assassin will have 5-6 kicks, which causes her to be defenseless while kicking, not able to move, so if the hammerdin gets out of it, he can just tele on top and hammer to death.

Also, since most assassins have like 4k life, hammerdins will kill them _very_ quickly, 2 hammers with 17k damage and 75% fcr, or 3 hammers with 125% fcr.

[wasonlp]

@jimsplat, yes man, i try to make tele and kick, and run, and df and kick and run... sometimes i can hit thems and down their lifes a half or some... but normaly one hammer hit me, and i dead :P

@Ce olba, i know the problem to make too much kickes, and i only put point on DTalon to make 4 kick (with +x on gear and skillers)... but even 4 kicks can be too much vs hammers :|

Thx for answers

Cu