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Naja
01-05-2006, 19:49
All the guides I read about Bone Necros are pre 1.11 (they all talk about the Marrowalks bug :rolleyes: ).

Is the Bone Mancer still a viable build without Marrowalks? Can he solo Hell? I know that the Ubers are really resistant to magic, but does he have even a marginal chance of success?

GalenDoUrden
01-05-2006, 20:18
He can solo hell, but it may take a while. Against the Ubers he stands no chance at all. A purebonemancer would die pretty quickly. In my opinnion they are better at PvP then PvM

hsklrcrw
01-05-2006, 20:20
I've played bonemancer a lot (in 1.11), and apart from my concentrate tank barb, i find them to be the most stable chars i've had. With a fully synergised bone spear/spirit, CE, amp and a merc with insight, soloing hell should not be any problems whatsoever (assuming you have at least decent gear)
As for the ubers, i havent tried myself, but i'm pretty sure it would be a disaster.
The bonemancer is a slooow bosskiller.

Naja
01-05-2006, 20:50
You couldn't take on the Ubers even with Corpse Explosion? :undecided:

I hear some people say that there are no corpses in Uber Tristram, but then I hear about some people being able to revive dead monsters if they're fast enough. Why couldn't that be the case also for CE, I wonder...

Evrae Altana
02-05-2006, 01:45
You couldn't take on the Ubers even with Corpse Explosion? There are no corpses to explode.

When people talk about reviving for Uber Trist, they're talking about reviving them in some other place, then bringing them into Trist, not reviving in Trist itself.

Jackson
02-05-2006, 01:56
You couldn't take on the Ubers even with Corpse Explosion?

Most of the monsters will be immune to the majority of the CE (fire and physical) damage anyways.

garion
02-05-2006, 04:36
There are no corpses to explode.

When people talk about reviving for Uber Trist, they're talking about reviving them in some other place, then bringing them into Trist, not reviving in Trist itself.
well you can revive a few skeles in trist...but you have like a nano sec before they disintegrate...:undecided:

i thought i could slay the minions and just raise skeles to restore the ones i lost...well...thats not a great strategy...revives are much better...

get urdars from act 3 durance, river of flame, tombs...etc

Naja
02-05-2006, 07:20
That's so lame. They've totally dicked the Bone Mancer out of having any power or relevance for PvM (unless you invest 100 points for all the necessary synergies, and even then...). :largeannoyed:

Jackson
02-05-2006, 07:37
For a bonemancer, they still do ok in regular PvM.

Evrae Altana
02-05-2006, 07:39
That's so lame. They've totally dicked the Bone Mancer out of having any power or relevance for PvM (unless you invest 100 points for all the necessary synergies, and even then...). They've lost some of their power yes, but they're still perfectly fine PvM chars. I have one, and he's awesome.

Mad Mantis
02-05-2006, 16:49
Is the Bone Mancer still a viable build without Marrowalks? Can he solo Hell?

If you read Souless' guide you would know that he mentions set-ups that don't even include the Marrowwalk bug, so one could assume that the Bonemancer without Marrowwalk has always been viable.