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WarlockCC
01-05-2006, 16:29
After following one of Fred's ideas, I made a 2h zealer using a 30ias 192 exec. Indeed it is a lot of fun seeing the pala chop away at the baddies with such a big sword. :)
But now he is level 62, still a lot of fun, but somebody had to come along and make trouble, though in a good way.
He saw how much fun I was having with the exec, he said, I may have something that interests you.
And indeed it interested me.
a 254 martel with 8 to min damage, 39 life and 40 ias.
I traded a undisclosed bounty for that martel but now I am faced with the choice between exec or martel.
With the exec I do a mere 1000 up to just under 2000 while with the martel I do 16xx up to 26xx
Though the martel is capped at 6fpa and the exec at 5fpa. They are both a lot of fun.
If I do continue to use the martel, I would have to re-make the zealer since the martel doesn't have a dex req and so I would have more life for my zealer, quite a bit more life. But then I would have the exec spare.
Or do I continue to use the exec, what do I do with the martel then. I would like to make use of the 40 ias on the martel(and we all know that in WW this IAS will go to waste)
Note that I don't play or have LoD, so I won't convert it to lod. :)
After following one of Fred's ideas, I made a 2h zealer using a 30ias 192 exec. Indeed it is a lot of fun seeing the pala chop away at the baddies with such a big sword. :)
But now he is level 62, still a lot of fun, but somebody had to come along and make trouble, though in a good way.
He saw how much fun I was having with the exec, he said, I may have something that interests you.
And indeed it interested me.
a 254 martel with 8 to min damage, 39 life and 40 ias.
I traded a undisclosed bounty for that martel but now I am faced with the choice between exec or martel.
With the exec I do a mere 1000 up to just under 2000 while with the martel I do 16xx up to 26xx
Though the martel is capped at 6fpa and the exec at 5fpa. They are both a lot of fun.
If I do continue to use the martel, I would have to re-make the zealer since the martel doesn't have a dex req and so I would have more life for my zealer, quite a bit more life. But then I would have the exec spare.
Or do I continue to use the exec, what do I do with the martel then. I would like to make use of the 40 ias on the martel(and we all know that in WW this IAS will go to waste)
Note that I don't play or have LoD, so I won't convert it to lod. :)
you stated "remake". why not just make another?
leave the one exe, and the other a mart?
getting to lvl 62 on classic shouldn't be hard at all if you have anyone on the /f list that plays, and/or two cd's/pc's.
I self rush to hell cs in about an hour with my laptop/desktop combo, and then using my chanter get the new chars to lvl 20 or so before hell cs-ing. (or cowing your preference)
levelling (for me) seems to really slow down in the mid 80s, and pretty much unfortunately requires raiding to get into the high 80s. (my highest characters ever are 88 - currently , I have 2 at 88, and one at 87 :( )
I guess what I'm saying, is that lvl 62 isn't a TON of work to throw away, but since you have two weapons, why not get two zealers to the same relative level/build and compare how they do?
DiabloAvenger
02-05-2006, 01:09
If your willing to put the time to remake then do so but I am sure your zealer will be fine the way he is now with the mart. Remaking will only make him better and if you choose not to remake and get the pally to a high level, you will feel like you wasted points and have an urge to remake again.
If you want to make a high level 2hand zealer then I would remake but if you are just doing it for fun then your char at the moment is fine.
WarlockCC
02-05-2006, 11:28
I didn't really want to make a second 2h zealer, due to lack of account space and unqillingness to have to memorise yet another account, but me and TDL just started a account together just so there is a far smaller chance that it gets forgotten, I will make the martel Zealer on there, thanks for the replies.
I guess the exec zealer will be stranded where he is at the moment though.
Oh well, such is life as one of my characters. :)
WarlockCC
02-05-2006, 18:09
Now, since this Martel Zealer only requires 10ias bessides the 40 on the martel, what kind of equip should I toss on him ? I don't think I will venture into CS much, because oblivion knights hate me to the point of delaying their casting until I have started the swing. And with this kind of damage, 1 hit is fatal.
or should I maybe make a sanctuary zealer out of him for CS specific purposes ?
What says yee, options and/or idea's please. :)
The level req on the martel is 60(prolly due to the 39 life on it) so I'll have a while to think about it.
And, while we're on the subject, Fred or anybody, you think a bonesnap fana zealer would work ? Or a bonesnap sanctuary zealer for CS'ing ?
fredsta54
02-05-2006, 19:30
Now, since this Martel Zealer only requires 10ias bessides the 40 on the martel, what kind of equip should I toss on him ? I don't think I will venture into CS much, because oblivion knights hate me to the point of delaying their casting until I have started the swing. And with this kind of damage, 1 hit is fatal.
or should I maybe make a sanctuary zealer out of him for CS specific purposes ?
What says yee, options and/or idea's please. :)
The level req on the martel is 60(prolly due to the 39 life on it) so I'll have a while to think about it.
And, while we're on the subject, Fred or anybody, you think a bonesnap fana zealer would work ? Or a bonesnap sanctuary zealer for CS'ing ?
Sanctuary + zeal is bad due to the kb against undead
for the 10 ias, bloodfist's ias, fhr, n life is your best bet id say
Bonesnap wouldnt be great i say, due to the lack of ias. Steeldriver i think is better than mart cuz of its reqs, 40 ias, and you can actually get nice life fhr n resists with that setup. Mart does have that raw power tho
Fred
WarlockCC
04-05-2006, 12:35
Sanctuary + zeal is bad due to the kb against undead
for the 10 ias, bloodfist's ias, fhr, n life is your best bet id say
Bonesnap wouldnt be great i say, due to the lack of ias. Steeldriver i think is better than mart cuz of its reqs, 40 ias, and you can actually get nice life fhr n resists with that setup. Mart does have that raw power tho
Fred
I think that's the second time you had to remind me of that, Fred. I just keep forgetting the knockback effect the aura has.
Could a charger with this aura work maybe ?
Back to my mart zealer :
And indeed there is no other choice then Bloodfists, it also has that nice + to min damage hmmmmm, yum. Just good mods on it really.
And if I would have to switch to a resist aura I would still hit 8 frames per attack with the bloodfists.
zeal, no fana with mart :
12 fpa at 0 ias
11 fpa at 4 ias
10 fpa at 13 ias
9 fpa at 24 ias
8 fpa at 46 ias
7 fpa at 83 ias
6 fpa at 168 ias
Iratha's and hawk(mebbe even go for 3 Iratha's for the frw) or deaths and some high def ornate(rescently found a magic/blue 99 ed and 7 damage reduced) ?
Amy would be either Iratha's or a +2 pala with 7 to min. Or a +2 pala with 11 dtm ? The martel doesn't have ml and I would have to get it from somewhere, although thanks for my vit sorc I am getting used to chucking potions every other cast. :)
Then there's the str bit. I may be going for higher str to do some more damage. Say 200 or mebbe 250 str, that should still leave enough for vit and would boost the damage considerably, maybe even to 3k per zeal hit.
Boots could be Gobs.
Anybody knows what happens if your attack does more damage then the crushing blow hit would do ? Would you do attack damage or the lesser CB damage ?
Which just leaves the helm...
Tarn ? Iratha's ? I do need some resists, so mebbe that tri-res (20's) bonehelm I have lying around ?
What to do with Phys Immunes though ?
Thoughts, idea's ?
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