MrGoth
27-04-2006, 08:06
I'm not too sure which weapon to use on switch for attacking stray {less than 3} targets at onces.
This is a pvm barb who is mainly a leap attacker with extra excess focused on zerk.
He will use some 1 hand axe + shield vrs 4+ critters {depending on their power}, and an etheral big ol' smack-you weapon on switch for less.
I wanted to go with axes here because it was the only weapons with two choices {1 hand or 2 hand}, that had larger than range 3 {glorious axe @ range 4}.
Here are my opinions on Hellslayer & Ex. Justice, please post with your own so I can compare notes!
eHellslayer
~Range 3 = only average, sorta against the purpose of using axes for range 4
~no ias at all since it will have a zod in it. Leap attack requires no ias, but this will attack at like 12 frames ww if i need to get out of a sticky situation.
~berserking with this would be suicidal
~looks kinda funny. Not as bad as a tiny hand axe, but the barbs bulky shoulders kinda make it look off - looks ok with a barb without a hat
but...
~highest max damage of any legit axe
~sooooo many style points for using the origonal {first and only legit pre 1.10}, 1k+max damage weapon.
~huge +hp boost
~easy to get, no variations, either etheral or not, and noone ever wants these
eEx. Justice
~weak ias, again leap attack doesnt require it, but atleast this one wont hit the last ww breakpoint.
~unimpressive damage, for a 2 hander, and when comparing the damage of this to, say, a 415 ebotd zerker, which is a 1 hander...its kinda sad.
~might be hard to get a good one...
but...
~decrep, although its uses will be limited since this weapon is only being used vrs minimum targetes
~crushing blow, sorta makes up for the less damage
~gfg looks, omg huge axe gona crush everything!
~can reach semi~ok zerk attack speeds, possibly useful vrs bosses.
Which would you pick, and why??
Also, I was looking threw some other weapons, and these three sorta stand out as possibly really useful, although they would require a change in skill placement.
If I were to use any of these, I would max polearm mastery instead of what I would be using my 1hand + shield weapon mastery, which would mean my defensive mode would have quite a bit less attackrating & damage.
~eth upped Pierre Tombale Couant {unique partizan upped to cryptic axe}. It could possibly have the damage of an eth Ex. Justice, it has obscene deadly strike, and even mana leach & fhr & even +3 barb skills, so it could be a war cry weapon too. Really this thing as some great modes, its just the damage is rather weak compared to...
~eth 3 socket tomb reaver. Resistance + possibly over 1k max damage + with one singel 15%ias jewel it would have enough speed for a 4 frame ww, and attacking with it with zerk wouldnt put me in my deathbed.
*this character is ladder, but I'm a total newb on ladder and I cannot afford an etheral one of these at the moment. Assume for now that it will have around 600 max damage after sockets.:undecided:
~ebotd great pole axe - range 5, where as these other two cryptic axes are range 4. The damage & leach & modes & all that jazz that we all know about.
Any help would be much loved. I want everyones opinion, and also why they think that.
Thanks in advance~
edits; I thought about using ebotd glorious axe & reaver, but neither impress me that much.
This is a pvm barb who is mainly a leap attacker with extra excess focused on zerk.
He will use some 1 hand axe + shield vrs 4+ critters {depending on their power}, and an etheral big ol' smack-you weapon on switch for less.
I wanted to go with axes here because it was the only weapons with two choices {1 hand or 2 hand}, that had larger than range 3 {glorious axe @ range 4}.
Here are my opinions on Hellslayer & Ex. Justice, please post with your own so I can compare notes!
eHellslayer
~Range 3 = only average, sorta against the purpose of using axes for range 4
~no ias at all since it will have a zod in it. Leap attack requires no ias, but this will attack at like 12 frames ww if i need to get out of a sticky situation.
~berserking with this would be suicidal
~looks kinda funny. Not as bad as a tiny hand axe, but the barbs bulky shoulders kinda make it look off - looks ok with a barb without a hat
but...
~highest max damage of any legit axe
~sooooo many style points for using the origonal {first and only legit pre 1.10}, 1k+max damage weapon.
~huge +hp boost
~easy to get, no variations, either etheral or not, and noone ever wants these
eEx. Justice
~weak ias, again leap attack doesnt require it, but atleast this one wont hit the last ww breakpoint.
~unimpressive damage, for a 2 hander, and when comparing the damage of this to, say, a 415 ebotd zerker, which is a 1 hander...its kinda sad.
~might be hard to get a good one...
but...
~decrep, although its uses will be limited since this weapon is only being used vrs minimum targetes
~crushing blow, sorta makes up for the less damage
~gfg looks, omg huge axe gona crush everything!
~can reach semi~ok zerk attack speeds, possibly useful vrs bosses.
Which would you pick, and why??
Also, I was looking threw some other weapons, and these three sorta stand out as possibly really useful, although they would require a change in skill placement.
If I were to use any of these, I would max polearm mastery instead of what I would be using my 1hand + shield weapon mastery, which would mean my defensive mode would have quite a bit less attackrating & damage.
~eth upped Pierre Tombale Couant {unique partizan upped to cryptic axe}. It could possibly have the damage of an eth Ex. Justice, it has obscene deadly strike, and even mana leach & fhr & even +3 barb skills, so it could be a war cry weapon too. Really this thing as some great modes, its just the damage is rather weak compared to...
~eth 3 socket tomb reaver. Resistance + possibly over 1k max damage + with one singel 15%ias jewel it would have enough speed for a 4 frame ww, and attacking with it with zerk wouldnt put me in my deathbed.
*this character is ladder, but I'm a total newb on ladder and I cannot afford an etheral one of these at the moment. Assume for now that it will have around 600 max damage after sockets.:undecided:
~ebotd great pole axe - range 5, where as these other two cryptic axes are range 4. The damage & leach & modes & all that jazz that we all know about.
Any help would be much loved. I want everyones opinion, and also why they think that.
Thanks in advance~
edits; I thought about using ebotd glorious axe & reaver, but neither impress me that much.