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Shrouds
26-04-2006, 03:12
Hey, first let me say, Im really not good with Paladins so Im not even sure if this will work but...

My friends and I do Uber runs often, but the thing is none of them have smiters who can solo ubers. Normally we grab a strong WW Barb, a Hammerdin, a Zealer and a Life Tap Necro. Tap an Uber, WW him to death and Zealers + Hammerdin quickly bring down surrounding monsters so Necro doesn't get owned. So far, not a single Uber run that we failed, it just takes a bit of time and sometimes a lot of deaths lol. This is mainly because the Barb can solo the uber with Life Tap, but only if all the other minions do not interfere. And normally we die if the two pallies can't keep off the undead and they start owning the necro and then the Barb.

But then I noticed something, with exception to those Demon Lords, all the monsters that are raised are Undead, including the Blood Lords. And if I read Sanctuary correctly, it knocks back all undead.

So, I am wondering, is it possible for a Paladin to max out Sanctuary and boost it's lvl high enough to knock every undead off the screen (and maybe out of attack range too)? I know it might seem dumb to a lot of you who have smiters that can solo, but is this a possible route for those who arn't as rich? As for the Demon lords, the zealer and hammerdin can handle those with ease, it's usually the range undead (bowman, casters, mages, etc) that are the problem.

KaythonXE
26-04-2006, 03:43
Well at slvl 20(the choice most BvCs go so they can leap to most of the screen at the highest resolution), the range of leap is 16.6. Now, at lvl 20 sanctuary knocks back 16.7 yards with .67 more yards each level increase after that. Also you get at level 20 750% ed to undead, which is far greater than any fanatacism aura you could put on it. The damage from the knockback + pulse would be weak, but, I suppose it could be worth a try. Are you in non-ladder? I have a paladin that can run ubers quite easily, and would be happy to help for no charge. But back on topic, it might be a nice skill to flash, then attack, then flash to constantly keep them knocked back, walking forward, and knocked back. But without testing I'm unsure if it will work.

kuafu
26-04-2006, 03:58
If you do that, use a Vile Husk and a pair of Ghoulhide, and I think you can 1-hit kill any undead:)
Back on the topic, I use Azurewrath to kill undead when solo'ing ubers. It works pretty well. I think you should try that first, before wasting 20 points.

KaythonXE
26-04-2006, 04:14
But the point is Shrouds said that they aren't very rich. Now on NLEast, which I play, Azurewrath is worth a good 3 sojs. That is a lot for a player that is by far rich. And a vile husk is 2-handed right? That would simply make the paladin lose his ability to block and die quicker.

AnimeCraze
26-04-2006, 07:14
Can't the zealot just smite? If he is not using holy shield, there is a very big problem. Barb can also how away the minions if necessary. I think that's probably going to be more effective.

Shrouds
26-04-2006, 16:19
It's not really that I can't do the Ubers, since we haven't failed once. It's just that sometimes we just run into death delays. Howl is a possbility but since the Barb is the main tanker, we can't have him running around howling the enemies away and letting the ubers run around again...not to mention it only keeps them away for a short time before you have to repeat the process. Also, that Barb can't hold ground and Howl since a lot of the Undead are attacking from a distance and out of Howl Range.

I was hoping that if I had a Sanctuary Paladin with max BR and Holy Shield and all, I would be able to have a guy literally stand there next to the Barb and push opposition away so a Zealer can quickly bring down the Demon Lord and support the Barb with further 1 point smiting.

I went on a Pally I was going to delete and I tossed a lot points into Sanctuary and ran into Hell Sewers. So far it works pretty good in there. From what I tested, it knocks them back and the timing is pretty good so majority of the time, the undead don't even get to retaliate since as soon as they raise their bows, they get another knockback.

I could probably do a two-man Uber with this. Having a Sanctuary aura and some form of attack, either Zeal or perhaps Smite (since I will have lots into Holy Shield to be able to stand there against the Demon Lords). Think this will work out? Sanctuary Paladin w/ an attack + A Barb that can solo Tank ubers?

Since Im looking for Knockback and not damage, I'll forget maxing Cleansing. So Probably Im thinking of:

20 - Sanctuary
20 - Holy Shield
20 - Some Attack (Maybe Smite since HS is there and I just want to stun those Lords from bothering the Barb, not worry about bringing them down)
20 - Offensive Switch Aura (Probably Fanc.)
Spare - Defiance

AnimeCraze
26-04-2006, 20:05
I can't see how the barb can be a better tanker than the pally, especially with life-tap. Howl's range gets pretty big when you start having some +skills on the barb. Anyways, I use scantuary against uber Baal myself (1 point of course) to drink less mana pots, and allow myself to zeal the ghosts and vampires to death.