Was thinking of making an special mf barb

[fredsta54]

But not your typical one

Heres what i have planned (if i make it)

2X gull
Chancies
Gwrap
Gtoe/resist gf mf boot
Angelic ammy, rings, and armour
3 ptopaz helm/ptarn

20 bo
20 shout
Some inc speed/nat resist
20 find item
1 ww
20 wep mastery

Ok, i know by now you think im crazy. Just to clear up some confusion, ill be chanted and playing in 1 player hell/nm games, bosses in particular. Just wanted to try out huge mf with viable killing speed, and of course ill be leaching cs and popping


How do you think it would work out?


EDIT: just remembered there is no dagger mastery :S Well then 20 to ww (just for ar) or if the mana boost is 2 much then 20 to... ironskin ftw!


Fred

[Kevin William Cox]

No mana leech? You didn't mention stats so... I don't know. What lvl enchant? It had better be good with that damage. Otherwise you're gonna be WWing like a mad man. I think NM would be viable, Hell, ouch... resists are gonna hurt. Only 1 way to find out though.





Kev

[DiabloAvenger]

I don't think you would survive hell with no leach but if ur chanter has enchant,wamrth,and fire mastery max with the highest possible +skills (10,11 with bc) then you would be doing 17k dmg.

Even if you were to have that chanter and put some leach on, most of your damage will be from fire damage which doesn't add to leach and gull does crap physical damage so NM will probably be the furthus you will be viable at.

[Kiwi Legend]

Interesting idea but definately not viable for hell.

Diablo:17k damage? how do you come up with that?

[fredsta54]

Well it'd be for mf any/all of nm, and killing BOSSES in hell. With maxed fr and high life he should survive ok with a few purples in the belt


Fred

[DiabloAvenger]

Interesting idea but definately not viable for hell.

Diablo:17k damage? how do you come up with that?

There is a site that tells you how much damage a skill will do with a certain number of skill points. It is really useful to plan a char ahead and see how effective a skill would be at a certain level.

The site is
Link deleted -- Dacar

I checked the damage agian it was just 1.7k not 17k so yeah lol mb

[Dinnin Darkblade]

There is a site that tells you how much damage a skill will do with a certain number of skill points. It is really useful to plan a char ahead and see how effective a skill would be at a certain level.

The site is
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I checked the damage agian it was just 1.7k not 17k so yeah lol mb

So ya know for the future I don't believe that link is allowed. That site deals with duped items. The planner is great yes, but when I asked for it in the SPF I got chewed up and down by the Mods there and the fella who posted it got banned for a few weeks.

[DiabloAvenger]

Oh crap.....I cant edit it either.....just ignore that part everyone......

[Dacar92]

So ya know for the future I don't believe that link is allowed. That site deals with duped items. The planner is great yes, but when I asked for it in the SPF I got chewed up and down by the Mods there and the fella who posted it got banned for a few weeks.


This is true. I cannot allow that link since it does have dupes/hacks, etc... on it. The German site is OK, even though there is a forum. The reason is twofold: the forums are in German, and we do not offer a calculator at all here anymore. Even though we do not offer a skill planner either, we do not want to be seen as getting easy on hacks, etc...

[purplelocust]

I did basically exactly that back in Ladder Season 1 except I used frenzy on a double-gulled barb with a good enchant and Goblin Toes. No mastery applies but the AR boost from enchant helps loads. It worked quite well on NM Meph in hardcore. I was using two computers- a sorc would tele down to Durance 3 and then open a portal for the barb to come in, sometimes after staticing Meph some. It also worked great for NM cows, killing and horking, but I didn't try much in hell, since my connection at the time was pretty flaky and Hell hardcore was asking for it.

[fredsta54]

I did basically exactly that back in Ladder Season 1 except I used frenzy on a double-gulled barb with a good enchant and Goblin Toes. No mastery applies but the AR boost from enchant helps loads. It worked quite well on NM Meph in hardcore. I was using two computers- a sorc would tele down to Durance 3 and then open a portal for the barb to come in, sometimes after staticing Meph some. It also worked great for NM cows, killing and horking, but I didn't try much in hell, since my connection at the time was pretty flaky and Hell hardcore was asking for it.

Cool! Although i think ww would be more effective :P Should kill fine dual wielding range 1 weapons + enchant

Btw, the chanter will be wearing all + skill gear, minus sojs, with my BC on, so... yeah







Fred

[zaxien]

I have tried this many times before...PURE chanted mf barb not worth the trouble imo. for one reason....any fire immunes=no killing. that means good luck doing andy. best way to do it is go 2hand wear em down THEN go for the 2 gull kill. you can even do this with no chant pretty easy.
skills-
max bo
max ww
around 12 or so nats
max item find
rest where ever

items-it gets tricky here...depending on resists wanted
3tophelm or tarn if ya gf too
chancies
wrap
armor for res/gf-skins straight mf tancs
ammy res gf-+2 pris gf/mf ammy +1 if ya cant find or straight mf--tanc
boots high res mf/gf
rings--nagels or resis leech rings

with straight mf setup (you will die a bit) you should have
505 or so killing with 2 gulls same for popping
resist setup --one my popper uses you will have around 200mf popping 400 or so.
I hardly die and am set for gf as well so i get 500k per mf run not doing andy or mep.

But you can wipe out nm VERY easy with chant dual daggers. my setups are for hell only

[fredsta54]

I have tried this many times before...PURE chanted mf barb not worth the trouble imo. for one reason....any fire immunes=no killing. that means good luck doing andy. best way to do it is go 2hand wear em down THEN go for the 2 gull kill. you can even do this with no chant pretty easy.
skills-
max bo
max ww
around 12 or so nats
max item find
rest where ever

items-it gets tricky here...depending on resists wanted
3tophelm or tarn if ya gf too
chancies
wrap
armor for res/gf-skins straight mf tancs
ammy res gf-+2 pris gf/mf ammy +1 if ya cant find or straight mf--tanc
boots high res mf/gf
rings--nagels or resis leech rings

with straight mf setup (you will die a bit) you should have
505 or so killing with 2 gulls same for popping
resist setup --one my popper uses you will have around 200mf popping 400 or so.
I hardly die and am set for gf as well so i get 500k per mf run not doing andy or mep.

But you can wipe out nm VERY easy with chant dual daggers. my setups are for hell only

Thats an typical mf barb setup, been there done that, it loses its charm. You said its fine for nm, which is where i plan to mf more than not. I know for a fact ill be able to kill hell bosses with dual wield + cb + chant






Fred

[zaxien]

Thats an typical mf barb setup, been there done that, it loses its charm. You said its fine for nm, which is where i plan to mf more than not. I know for a fact ill be able to kill hell bosses with dual wield + cb + chant






Fred


Okie Dokie:thumbsup:

[Zodijackyl]

You should use my suggested CS popper/leaper.

20BO
20Shout
20Leap
rest to Find Item/Natural Resist/Increased Speed to your tastes.

[tdlofcc]

You should use my suggested CS popper/leaper.

20BO
20Shout
20Leap
rest to Find Item/Natural Resist/Increased Speed to your tastes.

Which is really boring to play ... besides ... there will be Necros with CE and Palas with Redemption. So there are usually not alot of bodies to pop.

But thats just my 2cents :P

[magnet]

ive been bored with my mf/gf barb as of late, also. kill council. new game. kill council. new game. kill council. new game....ad infinitum...[sprinkled with the occasional sidesteps to boneash and fireeye].

so lately i've been trying to harvest a game as efficiently and comprehensively as possible, instead of running on to the next game.

i use my blizzard mf/rusher sorceress to hit andy and mephisto, then up to the cs and hit vizer and infector [if hes not immune], then popping all remaining seals, including seis. then i backtrack to act 1, grab leg and open cows, and exit game.

i then return with my mf/gf barb and run the cow king, rakinishu, the boss packs in tristram, boneash, fireeye, and travincal....then i hop to cs, whack seis with my whacking stick, then kill diablo.

done.

[WarlockCC]

On my MF barb I have two gulls, they give him 200% more MF, I mean 200MF, that's a lot. The gulls reside safely in his cube, which is in his stash.
The switching thing worked for me once or twice, but then I just popped holding the mart and I haven't put down the mart since. Well, cept when I died, which I do on occasion, but only when I am carrying a lot of gold, never when I just transferred the gold. Welcome to my world of luck. I hope you don't get stuck here, it's not a nice place.
Finding absolutely godly mods on a type 1 item is the daily affair.
Here you go, 189%ed +1 barb 10-12 to damage 1-2 cold damage club !
Maybe usefull as a frosted tootpick...
And also take this 50ed 20 fres 27 cres 25 lres Chaos Armor !
GS isn't just lighter, it also provides more def and more res...

Then there's looking for stairs and things, oh my, don't get me started on that. Spend hours combing the level, eventually just killing anything I see to avenge myself, release some frustration and kindoff mark that I have been there(That map scribling down where you've been just isn't the same as a corpse or bloody marker) only to find that the way down was amazingly close to the wp and whomever I was helping has already just strolled there at leisure and passed the quest I was attempting to help with.

Sigh, enough rants for now.


What I'm trying to say is, that I usually cannot be bothered to switch mart for gulls and would rather be out killing some more then standing around sticking gulls in my barb's hands.
A MF/GF mart barb works for me.
Some things on the mart would be nice, like damage and manaleech.
But I think Fred's idea of using a snap for such a barb will also work very nicely. Just find yourself a way to provide your manaleech kick. At first, a manald while you use angelics to hit and once you have enough mastery and WW, try and get a amy with manaleech and goldfind. (any res on it is welcome aswell).