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moonlike
24-04-2006, 17:34
i dont like dieing to smiters and ww barbs is max block good with 200fcr?

Ce Olba
24-04-2006, 17:50
i dont like dieing to smiters and ww barbs is max block good with 200fcr?

No, it's not possible without Wizgloves or huge dex. The closest you will get is 180, but this assumes vipermagi+20 fcr circlet+20 fcr amu+wiz.

moonlike
24-04-2006, 18:01
does anybody know 200fcr max block sorc?
i need 350 dex to have block is it bad idea?

Dennis_KoreanGuy
24-04-2006, 22:22
Triple Wizzies + SS / Mosers.

NewForumBloke
25-04-2006, 01:28
What about this?

2/20 helm
2/20 ammy
viper 30
arach 20
rings 20
mages 20
wiz 50
Up'd Lidless 20

Gets 200 fcr, and with a sheal in the lidless i think that might give a better shot at max block w/o having to spend 300 some dex right? Too lazy to check the formula lol so this suggestion could all be for nuaght.

-BLoke :smug:

Von Lazuli
25-04-2006, 02:56
That doesn't really work. Plus, upping the Lidless is overkill, it has the same block un-upgraded. But incidentally, with your setup, you will need 302dex with an 'eld' Lidless at level 90.

Oh yeah, how are you managing to die to smiters? Surely they aren't getting close enough to hit you? WW barbs I can imagine, Whirling long and getting the occasional hit or Leap+tele+Whril... But Smiters?
Oh yeah, Smite cannot be blocked.

Laz

moonlike
25-04-2006, 03:22
smiters charge and desync ;/

Mexicab
25-04-2006, 03:28
My windy druid owns smiter very easily...they usually don't like to desync/charge into 5 or so tornadoes and with all my summons they have a hard time actually charging at me.

NewForumBloke
25-04-2006, 03:52
1) we arent discussing windy's though, we talking fb sorcies :wink3:

2) If you would think about getting max block with the lidless, non up'd since you are indeed right uping does nothing for it :laugh: , the stats that you would have spent into str to use the spirit is now going towards dex for the block on the sheild and the rest of the stats into energy/vita. The only real down side to using lidless over spirit is the extra skill/fhr/mana/vita/resist that you dont get from a eld'd lidless.

3) Is it really better to eld the lidless? or would it be more beneficial to sheal it? I forget how to calc the faster chance to block in with the (150* cLvL/ Block)+15 .

So far my conclusion is, if you can make up the fhr loss from the spirit, as well as the mana, then a max/es sorc is very very fisable by using Lidless and combined with high str/dex fcr rings, ammy, circ you could prolly go base str and invest around 250 ish dex or less. Otherwise the spirit way just has some wonderfully juicy mods to it.

The decisoin is yours!

-BLoke :smug:

Duelskull2
25-04-2006, 04:07
just use a ber'ed whistans in a 105 fcr setup. Youll get more block, dmg, and dr with spending very little dex. You dont really need the extra cast as much as well.

Von Lazuli
25-04-2006, 07:02
But the extra cast is fun! Plus, although it is only 1 frame, I find when dueling against sorcs I really notice it. Fighting a 105%fcr sorc is a very different proposition to a 200%fcr one. Both have their pros and cons, and I usually build towards 105% but, using 200% fcr is crazy, the sheer speed, remember, a 105% fcr casts 7 times every 2 seconds, a 200% fcr casts 8...

Laz

Laz

moonlike
25-04-2006, 11:39
i have decided to make normal spirit 200fcr sorc but with a little of dex for max block eld whistan which i will use with 105fcr in some duels
do u think its good?

ZZimER
26-04-2006, 20:45
That doesn't really work. Plus, upping the Lidless is overkill, it has the same block un-upgraded. But incidentally, with your setup, you will need 302dex with an 'eld' Lidless at level 90.

Oh yeah, how are you managing to die to smiters? Surely they aren't getting close enough to hit you? WW barbs I can imagine, Whirling long and getting the occasional hit or Leap+tele+Whril... But Smiters?
Oh yeah, Smite cannot be blocked.

Laz

Wwsin's and Sin's using any claws can block smite , I think they are the ONLY chars who can block smite. I guess the only reason they can block smite is cuz of there weapon block skill =/

NewForumBloke
26-04-2006, 23:28
Zon's can d/a/e smite and yes, sins can block smite as well as just about every move there is in the game due to the claw block skill, though its rarely seen to be much further above 60 due to the terrible diminishing returns.

-BLoke :smug: