View Full Version : Wind druid weakness?
moonlike
23-04-2006, 18:21
i heard that trapers >windy but i dont know maybe goodly windys can win too
i heard alot also bvc>windy but i dont think so imo bvc=windy.
What do u think about trapers do they definately >windy or its just harde than with others but u can win(with 50% atlast).
And are there any other chars who can dominate wind druids?
i heard that trapers >windy but i dont know maybe goodly windys can win too
i heard alot also bvc>windy but i dont think so imo bvc=windy.
What do u think about trapers do they definately >windy or its just harde than with others but u can win(with 50% atlast).
And are there any other chars who can dominate wind druids?
If the trappers sit in their traps it makes life hard on the windy since the windy has to get close to deal damage and has no range attack. Just IMO vs. trappers. You can always just stay away making for a boring duel. I have always had trouble vs trappers that sit in their traps and also FB sorcy's casting at 200% can be real tough and hotspurs IMO is needed on the windy for this duel.
As for BVC I think they are = if the windy is a godly build 6k/6k (damage/life with oak) and max block and plays smart since leap has a big advantage in this duel and the windy's summons in general become useless.
Fire Ball sorcs and Spirit Necros can also be difficult if they play defensive, since a windy has to get close.
The Bone Necro is probably it's major weakness since, you can absorb trappers and fireballers if you want.
Dennis_KoreanGuy
24-04-2006, 22:24
BvC + Trapper > Windy. There are other builds that are > windy, but Windy is one of the most pub friendly dueling build there is in general.
MegaFlame
24-04-2006, 22:26
I think liberators are obscene duels for windies. The desyning charge lets him hit you real fast without getting much damage himself while the hammer field is damn annoying if you try to tele onto him.
Goth De Luse
24-04-2006, 22:28
just yesterday i was killing a wind druid with a Venomancer with ease.
that might be another over-looked class that might do it. ( poor druids telle couldnt help one bit)
I've dueled many godly trappers and bvc's and im not saying im godly or nothing but good bvc's have a hard time killing me when I jus leave a trail of tornadoes as they tele on me and I tele away. As for trappers if they deicde to sit in there traps I just wait until they come after(which most will) and then they're basically dead. The hardest thing I've ever dueled is an Infinity/nova/es sorc...those sorcs are hard to kill when they tele on you nova and tele away real quick.
HappyAssassin
25-04-2006, 09:49
In my experience a whirlwind assassin who knows how to trap and stun is absolute murder on 95% of the windies in the game. Even against the very best ones, you have a strong chance. If they try to tele on you, they are committing suicide. If they play defensive, you'll still win most of the time. I've met two druids with my wwsin that can kill me consistantly, and as far as I know they are the very best druid players on ladder (not the mention that one of them's a lvl 99 :shocked: )
KaythonXE
26-04-2006, 23:44
Since windies have the worst fhr, traps who mind blast can easily take them out. Pretty much any caster is greater than a wind druid, well, casters that teleport. With the exception of foher. Chargers and smiters can consistantly destory wind druids, but many other melees can't.
Chargers and smiters can consistantly destory wind druids, but many other melees can't.
Not true, most smiters will have problem with wind druids.
KaythonXE
27-04-2006, 00:33
Hm, I never had trouble against ONE windy. Two yes, one no. It's a lot like the smiter charges the oak, the oak blows up. Starts smiting. 1 hit kill. But some smiters charge the druid, smite twice and kill, while taking a lot of dmg from the nados. I dunno, I saw consistancy even in pubs.
Hm, I never had trouble against ONE windy. Two yes, one no. It's a lot like the smiter charges the oak, the oak blows up. Starts smiting. 1 hit kill. But some smiters charge the druid, smite twice and kill, while taking a lot of dmg from the nados. I dunno, I saw consistancy even in pubs.
You can't charge into a minion stacking Druid. Hurricane/ravens/wolves will put you into a FHR/FBR lock and then you'll proceed to be killed by a barrage of tornadoes.
I have never seen a windy thats uses wolf summoning losing consistently to a smiter, never.
Romper Stomper
27-04-2006, 01:36
Smiters/chargers using gmod/xAim will dominate windies due to the inability to target minions. Under any other circumstance a good wind druid will win.
My windy doesn't have bad fhr...spirit gives fhr and I keep a few fhr charms in my inv.
RetroStar
27-04-2006, 05:15
My windy doesn't have bad fhr...spirit gives fhr and I keep a few fhr charms in my inv.
spirit means no block which is even worst.
KaythonXE
27-04-2006, 05:45
I'm confused. Using Xaim or whatever would take away the smiter's strongest aspect. Which is lifetapping the minions which = full rejuvs. :O
blobswannabe
28-04-2006, 08:42
i've beaten top wiz glove/pure vita windies consisntely using chainlock telesmite on my v/t with no life tap. and my v/t doens't really even have proper smiter gear. now imagine if my pally was pure charge/smite and had coa+spirit+dracs setup instead of gryphon's eye,bloodfis,and ss.
vincevaler
28-04-2006, 21:35
My windy doesn't have bad fhr...spirit gives fhr and I keep a few fhr charms in my inv.
Yea why do you use spirit? Do you have max block with it? I use stormshield... what do you other wind druids use?
no max block for a druid means quick death to a charger or WW barb etc.
chargers can knock you outta minion stack. ive done it plenty of time with my wiz spike. hdin using grief pb works very well too. just shove druids into thier hammers. fire trapper kills em no contest. esp if they duel claw. bvc > windy but it can get if windie runs and spams all day. ghosts have it a bit easier than barbs imo.
BEST windy killer is either fire trapper or fb/es sorc. as long as the player is decent, you can kill windies.
MegaFlame
29-04-2006, 05:27
Chargers will work on windys but I can't say it'd be effective. There are windys out there that know how to duel.
drachedrache
29-04-2006, 05:27
What about rabies druid? (Just a thought) You could rabies a minion, he teles, and minion infects him and rest of the minions?
MegaFlame
29-04-2006, 05:35
But with max poison resists and poision length reduction I don't think it'd be much damage.
drachedrache
29-04-2006, 08:40
Yeah, but it could clear minions and allow for something like fury for the kill. Keep in mind that I'm purely speculating.
IEqualsGood
30-04-2006, 10:32
I think he meant spirit weapon, or hope at least =D
HappyAssassin
30-04-2006, 12:14
Imo, a really good pally or a ghost sin is the best windy killler.
But with max poison resists and poision length reduction I don't think it'd be much damage.
A good rabies dru will have a wicked -res weapon switch to hit as soon as hes out of the windys {horrible} attack range. Its damn hard to counter a good rabies other than teleing to town real fast.
problem is the druid has to do a couple things while not getting hit from a windy.
1. bite the druid itself because rabies bite has phsyical dmg too which kills all summons.
2. run away somehow without getting into block lock by ravens + wolves + nados.
3.killing the oak(since it wont die to rabies) before running or else the druid will remain with 6k+ life, which will take friggen long to drain.
all in all the advantage is totally tilted for the windy.
i think defensively played hammerdins and quickly kill a windy druid, just spam with max fcr and tele away until the druid stumbles across a spinning hammer :)
does summons actually go by the 1HP poison rule like regular players, or just dies when their HP dips below 1 like PvM?
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