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Kiwi Legend
21-04-2006, 12:23
Does anybody know what the fastest barb setup would be with maxed IS, blinkbats, 30 f/rw boots?
Want to make a barb that moves like a charging pally (just for the halabit)

WarlockCC
21-04-2006, 12:57
Does anybody know what the fastest barb setup would be with maxed IS, blinkbats, 30 f/rw boots?
Want to make a barb that moves like a charging pally (just for the halabit)
at least 3 Iratha's will help aswell, giving 20frw as a set bonus.
the 4th (unused) Iratha's item would be the belt, cause you will want deaths.
(You prolly already know this, but this is for others)Don't use Hawkmail as this is offcourse a heavy armor which slows you down more then the 10frw on it makes up for. Steve mentioned a more precise calculation for this a while back I think.

Bessides that, don't use a shield, or at least not a medium or heavy one, cause those(medium and heavy) will slow you down aswell.
You should be able to reach desync speeds. :)

If you want faster, go for a Frenzy with 2 weapons rather then a 2h weapon.
2 weapons with the same base speed, the one with the most IAS in the right hand and you will frenzy at that speed. I use a 40ias bh on one of my frenzy barbs and a no ias in the left hand. Or was it fast weapon in the left hand ? I allways forget. :)

If you want to go faster still, get some vile haxxor to make you a level 42 vigor runeword in classic. ;)

Kiwi Legend
21-04-2006, 13:21
thanks fella :)

Wanted to know the maxed IS you can reach as well
30 boots
20 irath
40 blinkbats
? maxed IS

Was thinking a two handed barb would be best, I've never been into making frenzy barbs, as the one WW away from killing any caster is so appealing.
How effective can frenzy be for killing speed of castors?

WarlockCC
21-04-2006, 13:29
thanks fella :)

Wanted to know the maxed IS you can reach as well
30 boots
20 irath
40 blinkbats
? maxed IS

Was thinking a two handed barb would be best, I've never been into making frenzy barbs, as the one WW away from killing any caster is so appealing.
How effective can frenzy be for killing speed of castors?
Well, if you have some monsters nearby, Frenzy is quite possibly the fastest caster-slaying machine. :)

If you have never tried a frenzy, then you owe it to yourself to make one of at least 70. By then you will be hooked on the speed. :)

Kevin William Cox
21-04-2006, 15:18
Also don't forget to get some skills in War Cry. It's your only source of crowd control.



Kev

HardkoreHarry
21-04-2006, 17:13
Don't use Hawkmail as this is offcourse a heavy armor which slows you down more then the 10frw on it makes up for. Steve mentioned a more precise calculation for this a while back I think.



Actually it was WhiteLightning, not steve, whoever that is.
http://forums.diabloii.net/showpost.php?p=4158153&postcount=16
Just giving credit where credits due.

And another thing, Kiwi listed blinkbats as adding 40 run/walk, but it only adds 10.

And with 3 iratha pieces, blinks, and deaths sash, you won't be getting much cold resist or lightning resist, which will most likely cause some problems.

If the character is for pvp, which it sounds like it will be, then I don't see the use of getting way cry.

And a lvl 20 increased speed adds 43 frw.

Kiwi Legend
21-04-2006, 18:07
I think Ill end up using blinkbats or irath. not both. Ill try out a few different combinations

Byrdie
21-04-2006, 18:12
dont forget to have both of your weps be +2 as the added skill bonuses will boost your speed aswell.

WarlockCC
21-04-2006, 18:56
Actually it was WhiteLightning, not steve, whoever that is.
http://forums.diabloii.net/showpost.php?p=4158153&postcount=16
Just giving credit where credits due.

And another thing, Kiwi listed blinkbats as adding 40 run/walk, but it only adds 10.

Indeed, 10 frw and 40 fhr.

And with 3 iratha pieces, blinks, and deaths sash, you won't be getting much cold resist or lightning resist, which will most likely cause some problems.

With all the fire sorcs about in 1.10 I would think fire a problem aswell.
Well, let's not forget 30 lightning res and 30 fire res in the Iratha's helm.
Then there's also the 30 cold resist in the gloves.
Offcourse there's the (might be handy vs poison monsters) poison res in the amy and 75% reduced poison length. On top of that the amulet also gives 15 res all when at least 2 Iratha's items are worn.
With the level 9-ish natural res one would take to compensate for negative Hell resists, I'd say that barb is on his way to a rezzy future. 45 all to start with. You can get some more from rings.
His main focus was speed though, as he asked what the fastest barb was.
I'm sure he can find a caster-hunter-speeder guide in Fred's list of mini-guides if he wants to.

If the character is for pvp, which it sounds like it will be, then I don't see the use of getting way cry.

And a lvl 20 increased speed adds 43 frw.

Kiwi Legend
21-04-2006, 19:05
Warlock: With the effort you put in, I just have to show up and read. lol good effort

WarlockCC
21-04-2006, 19:10
Warlock: With the effort you put in, I just have to show up and read. lol good effort
What can I say, I have both a lancer speeder (level 63 Sir) and a Max runningspeed Frenzy/Throwbarb. Bessides those I have a BH Frenzy and a swordfrenzy, which are less based on speed, but still just fun to play because of the damage they do. I just like speed. :)

HardkoreHarry
21-04-2006, 20:23
So . . . Let me get this straight. You want a lvl 9 nr (52 resist all), 45 cold/lightning resist from irathas, I'll even say 30 cold and light resist on both rings and even 40 to both on the boots.

So that means you have 197 to your cold and lightning resists. -50 for hell penalty gives you 90 each, with 57 stacked above that.

Now consider a lvl 20 (and very weak, might I add) cold mastery. This will lower your cold resist to 32. Factor in several thousand blizz damage and you might as well just sit in town until she leaves.

As for your lightning resist, it will also be at 90 with 57 stacked. Now take a lvl 20 (good luck finding an foher with only a lvl 20 conviction). That will lower your lightning resistance down to 22. Again, gf.

So like I said, you will be lacking in the resist department.

Kiwi Legend
21-04-2006, 20:26
But I will run like the wind. and not just any wind but the type that installs fear in the minds of all those characters that worry about getting one lick from a barb ESP in HC. Im out to make a few hearts get beating real fast :afro:

fredsta54
21-04-2006, 21:14
So . . . Let me get this straight. You want a lvl 9 nr (52 resist all), 45 cold/lightning resist from irathas, I'll even say 30 cold and light resist on both rings and even 40 to both on the boots.

So that means you have 197 to your cold and lightning resists. -50 for hell penalty gives you 90 each, with 57 stacked above that.

Now consider a lvl 20 (and very weak, might I add) cold mastery. This will lower your cold resist to 32. Factor in several thousand blizz damage and you might as well just sit in town until she leaves.

As for your lightning resist, it will also be at 90 with 57 stacked. Now take a lvl 20 (good luck finding an foher with only a lvl 20 conviction). That will lower your lightning resistance down to 22. Again, gf.

So like I said, you will be lacking in the resist department.


If your a better player then you should stilll win. If not, be lame and go 1h with a 3 soc shield

HardkoreHarry
21-04-2006, 23:19
I never said that the char wont work. I definately think it can. But in order to be able to take an orb or two (and you will have to, no matter how good you are), you will need some very good gear, along with a good amount of skill.

And kiwi did mention earlier that he planned on going two handed, but if he changes his mind than getting a shield with a nice amount a cold resist (3 soc or not) will certainly help the situation.

WarlockCC
01-05-2006, 12:58
So . . . Let me get this straight. You want a lvl 9 nr (52 resist all), 45 cold/lightning resist from irathas, I'll even say 30 cold and light resist on both rings and even 40 to both on the boots.

So that means you have 197 to your cold and lightning resists. -50 for hell penalty gives you 90 each, with 57 stacked above that.

Now consider a lvl 20 (and very weak, might I add) cold mastery. This will lower your cold resist to 32. Factor in several thousand blizz damage and you might as well just sit in town until she leaves.

As for your lightning resist, it will also be at 90 with 57 stacked. Now take a lvl 20 (good luck finding an foher with only a lvl 20 conviction). That will lower your lightning resistance down to 22. Again, gf.

So like I said, you will be lacking in the resist department.
Casters are not just Cold sorcs. These days you are more likely to run into necro's, firesorcs, Hammer- and FoH-dins. So for those very rare cases where you face a cold sorc you can, as Fred states, put on a 3 soc anti-cold shield or wait it out in town like you suggest.

His original question was still about speed and from what I understood making a uncommon character, not about the best cold-sorc killer.