2 Newb Basic PK Q's.

[Dennis_KoreanGuy]

1. How do you glitch equipments?

Yes, I understand I'm a noob for not knowing it till now, never really bothered to glitch any gear, but since I'm making a zon and I want to punch arrows... :laugh:

Are your gear bugged even on your screen or just on other people's? Then, how will you know you are glitching without asking people?

2. Invisible Skills

GA's, Spirits, FB, how do you cast em invisible in pk? I know you have to be far away, but does anyone have an actual distance on your map or your screen?

Meh help me out plz. :smiley:

[Approon]

its easy just put enough points in strength so your items and your hard point will be just under the lowest req (visible) item u have then make up for the rest by using charms :laugh:

works great :grin:

[Dennis_KoreanGuy]

its easy just put enough points in strength so your items and your hard point will be just under the lowest req (visible) item u have then make up for the rest by using charms :laugh:

works great :grin:
That's it? So if I calculate everything, equip charms first, then slowly fill up the req by pure stats it won't work? Also do anni / torches count? If they do, then why aren't everyone glitching?

Also, I hope you're not telling me to equip charms, break the req stats, equip item, then take off charm because that just doesn't work... :undecided:

[Jerion]

iirc an item becomes glitched if you only can use it with stats from charms

and missiles become invis when you leave the minimap

[Big Boss]

You will see your character normally, but other people will see you missing some or all of your gear.

[mainaman]

invisible bs,fb and hammers come from desynch not from where you are on the minimap ...desynch will make a ww barb invisible to the oponent too, same with charger ...

[Thoridian]

invisible bs,fb and hammers come from desynch not from where you are on the minimap ...desynch will make a ww barb invisible to the oponent too, same with charger ...

Do you know how desync works? Its mostly about speed, if something is moving too fast it will desync, so please tell me how bonespirits can move THAT fast theyll desync? :( No way to increse their moving speed.

FBs and GAs will become invisible when youre shooting em when youre not on your opponents minimap afaik

[Ce Olba]

Do you know how desync works? Its mostly about speed, if something is moving too fast it will desync, so please tell me how bonespirits can move THAT fast theyll desync? :( No way to increse their moving speed.

FBs and GAs will become invisible when youre shooting em when youre not on your opponents minimap afaik

Well, actually, even Bone Spirits have a speed-desynch thingy, as they spawn faster on your screen than they do on the Necro's screen. I've constantly wondered how my friend's kept spawning spirits so damn fast. But this does not cause them to turn invisible. They turn invisible after travelling a certain distance after their target point (aka where you click to spam those spirits), or when they lose their target (if namelock spirits). The distance appears to be about the same lenght as the lenght that you can see your opponent on your map. But it's a bit shorter IIRC, since I remember getting hit by IBS without letting the enemy necro get off-map.

[Thoridian]

I know Olba that theyre turning invisible after traveling certain distance from shooter lol, thats how vadim keeps beating us >.< traiiiiiiiiinnnnnssssss.

And still that mai-something guy was wrong lol

[mainaman]

have you ever heard you tori-something guy that if a hammerdin casts hammers while desynching the hammers will desynch too?
what i meant is that when the char desynchs his atack desynchs too...
and on another note i do know that desynch comes from speed of movement
but this wasnt the actual question of the thread.

[nickedoff]

invisible bs,fb and hammers come from desynch not from where you are on the minimap ...desynch will make a ww barb invisible to the oponent too, same with charger ...
Fireball, Bone Spirit and Guided Arrow don't desynch; they just become invisible right before their effect ends. If they're namelocked on someone, they have a huge chance of IGA/IBS/IFBing.

You can't str. glitch something if your equipment gives you same/more than strength than your charms provide. Since Enigma and Stormshield are banks of strength, it's very hard to str bug them logically.

Yes, annihlus and torch count as charms when you're str/dex bugging a char.

GA's, Spirits, FB, how do you cast em invisible in pk? I know you have to be far away, but does anyone have an actual distance on your map or your screen?
If you practice enough, you can perfect it.
Just aim with your map; position your 'plus sign' in a direction from their 'plus sign' and spam. Switch directions until you can get a slight name lock, and then teleport again.

[mclarke]

str bug isnt ALL about charms, i use a coh on my uber pala which he needs 11x str for i bug it by adding a 20 str ring to boost my str excluding any armour to 11x then i add my coh to make it 13x then remove my ring for a bk which lowers it back down to 11x meaning if i unequipped coh now i would be unable to re-equip it (can be annoying for ur corpse though ^^, i tend 2 leave games if i die, easier, or put my 20 str ring bnack on and make sure i got room for my bk to go into inventory)

[nickedoff]

That's the other kind of str bugging, not the kind I was talking about ;)

[Thoridian]

have you ever heard you tori-something guy that if a hammerdin casts hammers while desynching the hammers will desynch too?
what i meant is that when the char desynchs his atack desynchs too...
and on another note i do know that desynch comes from speed of movement
but this wasnt the actual question of the thread.

Ok so please explain your theory; how necromancer desynchs to make his spirits invisible? We were talking mostly about bs's and u jumped to hammers lol

[Ce Olba]

Ok so please explain your theory; how necromancer desynchs to make his spirits invisible? We were talking mostly about bs's and u jumped to hammers lol

My guess is that he won't answer. Btw, change your realm from "no longer play" to"Europe Std" please.

[SicHalo]

str bug isnt ALL about charms, i use a coh on my uber pala which he needs 11x str for i bug it by adding a 20 str ring to boost my str excluding any armour to 11x then i add my coh to make it 13x then remove my ring for a bk which lowers it back down to 11x meaning if i unequipped coh now i would be unable to re-equip it (can be annoying for ur corpse though ^^, i tend 2 leave games if i die, easier, or put my 20 str ring bnack on and make sure i got room for my bk to go into inventory)


this way works but as u know ur self this way is very dangerous espeically if u duel.

If u die and someone starts to dish out nks then ur in a serious problem u can actually lose items like this if u leave the game and ur corpses are spread across the bloodmore.

[Dennis_KoreanGuy]

Ehh this is pretty confusing about the glitching thing, but thank you for all the great feedback.

As far as I know, invisible skills has nothing to do with speed / desynch, and invis hammer, fb, spirts, ga, etc. all is because it is just about to reach the end of its range so about 0.5 screen or more before the end, to save processor power maybe, it just assumes that since it is so far away, visibility is one thing that doesn't need to show.

Hammer goes invisible once paly casts it and charge / tele's away from it asap. Theoretically, if a 150+ frw harmony zon ran as soon as she fired a ga, iga will occur much sooner than just standing still spamming.

mclarke. I know what you're talking about, and I'd rather equip cracked hard leather armor than use that coh to do what you're talking about, especially in PK. That's not the kind of "str / dex bugging" I was thinking about. :)

nickedoff I think you have the exact idea of what I wanted to know. I'm a zon so I won't be using any tele's. How do I practice it, without help of a patience friend? How will I know I am the right distance away without some rare noob going "wtf i died nothing hit me h4x0r jo0?"?

Any part of the map that can help me? As in far away just enough not to see hostile people when they come out? If I can see hostile people's plus'es on the map, I think that would be far too close for any invisibility... am I wrong?

[nickedoff]

Hammer goes invisible once paly casts it and charge / tele's away from it asap. Theoretically, if a 150+ frw harmony zon ran as soon as she fired a ga, iga will occur much sooner than just standing still spamming.
Ooh, I didn't know that. It'd be neat to try out on a ranger with max vigor and forty frw scs.
Wow. Desynch city c.c




Ehh this is pretty confusing about the glitching thing, but thank you for all the great feedback.

As far as I know, invisible skills has nothing to do with speed / desynch, and invis hammer, fb, spirts, ga, etc. all is because it is just about to reach the end of its range so about 0.5 screen or more before the end, to save processor power maybe, it just assumes that since it is so far away, visibility is one thing that doesn't need to show.

Hammer goes invisible once paly casts it and charge / tele's away from it asap. Theoretically, if a 150+ frw harmony zon ran as soon as she fired a ga, iga will occur much sooner than just standing still spamming.

mclarke. I know what you're talking about, and I'd rather equip cracked hard leather armor than use that coh to do what you're talking about, especially in PK. That's not the kind of "str / dex bugging" I was thinking about. :)

nickedoff I think you have the exact idea of what I wanted to know. I'm a zon so I won't be using any tele's. How do I practice it, without help of a patience friend? How will I know I am the right distance away without some rare noob going "wtf i died nothing hit me h4x0r jo0?"?
If you ever want to try it out, enigma on a zon is really useful. You lose the IAS, but you get a load of FRW and the ability to never, ever be hit.

In order to practice the shield switching, just fire off two arrows (Tele if you use enigma), then press W (or whatever you have switch designated to). Be aware that the weapon/shield you have on your switch will affect your arrow (IE; fleshripper will add it's slow, the -res from Death's Web will affect your poison).

There's really no way to try out IGA without doing it in a duel, or I guess with a really nice friend. If you can tele in (with my suggestions), get a GA lock, tele back, and then keep your arrows flying in the same direction, they usually keep the Turn Into IGA Eventually property.

It just takes a knack that you learn after a while; and after you get the hang of it, it's a lot easier with bone spirit.

[Thoridian]

My guess is that he won't answer. Btw, change your realm from "no longer play" to"Europe Std" please.
Tell me how and I will :P

[Ce Olba]

Tell me how and I will :P

User CP -> Edit Profile -> Additional information -> Realm

[Denied]

some rare noob going "wtf i died nothing hit me h4x0r jo0?"?

With these glitches, you will get alot of questions like that from noobs. Not just the rare ones...