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moonlike
19-04-2006, 12:30
is that a lost case ?
when smiter charge me i use swich and run but i never outrun him and after many charges he kills me
vs foh dunno but 1 foh kills me its bad even with 60%doge;/
i saw only one good ama which used enigma +wizz spirit on switch
she owned smiters but 99% of them are noobs and i dunno it will work vs goodly 50%dr charge desync smiter .
The only thing I can think of that may help is positioning obstacles between you and the pally (ie. valk, decoy, puddles in blood moor). I know that I can't seem to kill bowazons on my hammerdin, but smiters are probably different.
Speederländer
22-04-2006, 02:27
is that a lost case ?
when smiter charge me i use swich and run but i never outrun him and after many charges he kills me
vs foh dunno but 1 foh kills me its bad even with 60%doge;/
i saw only one good ama which used enigma +wizz spirit on switch
she owned smiters but 99% of them are noobs and i dunno it will work vs goodly 50%dr charge desync smiter .
A decent smiter using desync charge should pretty much never lose to a bowazon except from a mistake.
CupOfTea
22-04-2006, 02:56
You swith to eth titans and stormshield, and run from him, keep throwing LF at him. Smiter will have hard time to kill you. With my 800 life bowazon i killed some decent ones in this way.
the gopher
22-04-2006, 02:58
I agree with speederlander, also that unless the zon does a drastic gear change most good smiters will kill them.
Thats why you make an enchantress with widowmaker so you can teleport everywhere.
Speederländer
22-04-2006, 05:37
You swith to eth titans and stormshield, and run from him, keep throwing LF at him. Smiter will have hard time to kill you. With my 800 life bowazon i killed some decent ones in this way.
Good smiter properly using charge = you're dead before you knew you needed to switch and run
CupOfTea
22-04-2006, 14:23
Of course he will realise to charge you, but it miss 90% time because you run, you have block, dodge
you're dead before you knew you needed to switch and run I just switch then i see smiter in minimap
sorceressgod
22-04-2006, 16:05
well if you are facing these problems of paladins charging on u...
u can just make a farcasting javazon... like everyone else now :)
nickedoff
23-04-2006, 02:17
I agree with speederlander, also that unless the zon does a drastic gear change most good smiters will kill them.
Put a Stormshield and something like a Wizardspike or Spirit on your switch.
Just turn walk on, and switch to it when he gets close to you. He'll have a very hard time hitting you.
You can also completely remake your zon for tele, follow the same thing, except tele with your switch up when he comes next to you - just remember to not panic, or you can screw it up.
shizznitt
23-04-2006, 09:12
bowas have no real chance against gg smiters. they kill hdins great though :D
blobswannabe
23-04-2006, 11:05
Put a Stormshield and something like a Wizardspike or Spirit on your switch.
Just turn walk on, and switch to it when he gets close to you. He'll have a very hard time hitting you.
You can also completely remake your zon for tele, follow the same thing, except tele with your switch up when he comes next to you - just remember to not panic, or you can screw it up.
chainlock telesmite will completely destroy tele zons. Although i havent' seen anyone other than myself chainlock smite consistenly.
Or just plain old nl lock charge will problaby kill them since zons tele so slow even with high fcr.
even hammerdin can get advantages over this, simply strap a grief on dr setup and nl charge and ur ready to go.
MaG_Thunder
23-04-2006, 20:02
when i duel smiters i slap on a cleglaws for the kb..i lose 7fpa but with kb i can win 50% of the time against smiters. as for foh just stand still and let them try to hit you as u spam arrows onto them. you've got a good chance of dodging at least the first one.
also position yourself behind puddles and move back and forth a little bit when u think the smiter is charging toward you.
CupOfTea
23-04-2006, 20:19
good bow ama kills pub smiters easy
the problem is , if smiter is godly, or use holy freeze
Speederländer
23-04-2006, 20:44
good bow ama kills pub smiters easy
the problem is , if smiter is godly, or use holy freeze
Most people here assume you are dueling higher quality opponents than average pub duelers unless they explicity say "how do I beat duelers with little to no skill". Which is rare.
nickedoff
24-04-2006, 01:40
Or just plain old nl lock charge will problaby kill them since zons tele so slow even with high fcr.
Tele jams up smite and makes it move slowly. If the zon were to tele behind multiple puddles, the charger's done.
Plus, there's a lot of Slow Target on Fleshripper, and you usually won't ever be hit; especially by consecutive charges, due to maximum block and a huge dodge percentage with your run turned off.
Speederländer
24-04-2006, 02:14
Tele jams up smite and makes it move slowly. If the zon were to tele behind multiple puddles, the charger's done.
Plus, there's a lot of Slow Target on Fleshripper, and you usually won't ever be hit; especially by consecutive charges, due to maximum block and a huge dodge percentage with your run turned off.
No matter how much you rationalize the seeming advantages a zon has going for them on paper into a real chance to win, the fact of the matter is that in the real world, a good smiter/charger just should not die to a zon other than through some type of bad mistake.
Speederländer
24-04-2006, 03:56
No matter how much you rationalize the seeming advantages a zon has going for them on paper into a real chance to win, the fact of the matter is that in the real world, a good smiter/charger just should not die to a zon other than through some type of bad mistake.
Note that my comment applies to bowazons.
WhiteAlien
24-04-2006, 07:57
Tele jams up smite and makes it move slowly. If the zon were to tele behind multiple puddles, the charger's done.
Plus, there's a lot of Slow Target on Fleshripper, and you usually won't ever be hit; especially by consecutive charges, due to maximum block and a huge dodge percentage with your run turned off.
To use the advantage of slow target mod first you must hit enemy with that weapon.
Its not possible for bowazone to win smiter. Simply that. The only chance is when he is running/charging, when he is close, do whatever you want, zone is dead (thanks to dodge lock).
nickedoff
24-04-2006, 22:39
To use the advantage of slow target mod first you must hit enemy with that weapon.
You use the old Switch When You Shoot method, and snipe him off before he starts trying to charge at you.
If he gets you first, then yes, I suppose you're done.
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