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Jobless Punk
12-04-2006, 20:26
Skills:
(+5 to all skills from gear)
Javelin and Spear Skills-0

Passive and Magic Skills- 66
Inner Sight-1
Slow Missiles-1
Decoy-1
Valkyrie-12
Dodge-3
Avoid-3
Evade-3
Critical Strike-11
Penetrate-20
Pierce-11

Bow and Crossbow Skills-44
Magic Arrow-1
Cold Arrow-1
Ice Arrow-1
Freezing Arrow-1
Multiple Shot-19
Guided Arrow-1
Strafe-20

Stats:
Enough Strength for Gear
Pump Dexterity
Base Vitality
Base Energy

Tell me what you think and if you would change anything.

Omikron8
12-04-2006, 20:32
leave d/a/e at one each

too much pierce, get ~65% after +skills (like torch)

too much multi, 10-15 base is enough

put 20 in fury with titans on switch for very big crowds where fury clears quicker than multi/strafe

and by listing 110 skill pts i assume you are aiming for level 99

that is not a realistic level target

85-90 is more realistic

JME
12-04-2006, 20:43
leave d/a/e at one each

too much pierce, get ~65% after +skills (like torch)

too much multi, 10-15 base is enough

put 20 in fury with titans on switch for very big crowds where fury clears quicker than multi/strafe

and by listing 110 skill pts i assume you are aiming for level 99

that is not a realistic level target

85-90 is more realistic

I shoot for 90. Base life?...glass cannon. Not my thing but hey. Pierce has heavy diminishing returns. I like a stronger valk. Too much multi. As for the fury suggested by omikron, that's up to you. I've never met monsters that I couldn't take down with my 1 point in magic arrow and + skills (while merc/valk held them still). Dodge/avoid/evade...agreed with omikron, 1pt each

Jobless Punk
12-04-2006, 20:46
Yea,
But I am making a Straight Bowazon, I know having a hybrid is better, but I don’t want to make one.:grin:

So changing the other things it should look like this:

Skills:
(+5 to all skills from gear)
Javelin and Spear Skills-0

Passive and Magic Skills- 66
Inner Sight-1
Slow Missiles-1
Decoy-1
Valkyrie-12
Dodge-1
Avoid-1
Evade-1
Critical Strike-18
Penetrate-20
Pierce-10

Bow and Crossbow Skills-44
Magic Arrow-1
Cold Arrow-1
Ice Arrow-1
Freezing Arrow-1
Multiple Shot-19
Guided Arrow-1
Strafe-20

Stats:
Enough Strength for Gear
Pump Dexterity
Base Vitality
Base Energy

Jobless Punk
12-04-2006, 20:48
I shoot for 90. Base life?...glass cannon. Not my thing but hey. Pierce has heavy diminishing returns. I like a stronger valk. Too much multi. As for the fury suggested by omikron, that's up to you. I've never met monsters that I couldn't take down with my 1 point in magic arrow and + skills (while merc/valk held them still). Dodge/avoid/evade...agreed with omikron, 1pt each

What do you suggest for the Stat Points?

Minky
12-04-2006, 21:19
Interesting skill placement.

I'll tell you what my bowazon has for skills/stats:

110 Str (couldn't find more +str gear/items to hold a Hel'd Windforce .. which I ended up NOT liking anyway and went with other bows.

Rest Dex (Each point in Dex gives you 5 Attack Rating and like 1 minimum damage)

100 Vit (Right now with gear on I have around 700+ life, like you, I don't like dying in 1 hit. Some of us don't have GODLY gear -.-)

50 Energy (I did this so I could continually pump Strafes out on non-leechables)

Skills:

20 Strafe (24 total skill points used)

20 Penetrate (45 total used)

20 Pierce (65 total used)

20 Valkyrie (90 total used - not counting the Decoy since i'm pumping it now)

working toward 20 Decoy - Valk has 3.2k life at the moment, and sometimes that just isn't enough, also, the Decoy makes a really nice shield when you can't replace the Valk in hairy-hairy situations. (If I have any leftover after this, i'll toss a couple into the D/A/E skills for extra protection)


Depending on the bow I use, I have anywhere from +8 to +10 or so skills.
For Multi, 1 base point is enough, as all it does it raises the arrow count (to 24 total shot out) and the mana cost. I get by just fine with my 9+ arrows.
And just as you said, Magic Arrow does wonders for those pesky Physical Immunes.

Omikron8
13-04-2006, 00:30
why do people associate < 80 vit build with being "rich"

25-35 vita larges drop easily in night/hell, put a few of these in your inventory

10-20 vita/sustenences smalls drop easily throughout the game, put a bunch (10+) of these in your inventory too

start with 50 life

at level 80: 50 + 2*(79) = 208 life from simply leveling

lets say you invest 30 into vit: 20 --> 50

charms providing eg. 250 life and 3 potion quest = +60 life

208 + 90 + 250 + 60 = 608 life

that's with non-optimal life charms and only 50 base vitality

608 life is plenty to survive 2-3 decent hits/mistakes in hell

people need to remember that bowazons desperately need ANY source of physical damage they can get because their bows don't provide enough (except for wf/faith/buri/*insert high min+max bow or xbow here*) and guess what is your main source of physical damage? dexterity !

i would consider a "godly" bowazon charm setup to be 700+ life base (20) vitality

and good god you most definitely do not need energy

Jobless Punk
13-04-2006, 08:24
ok:smiley:
thanks for all your guys help I think I can start with my zon :grin:

Zzeno
14-04-2006, 04:15
Alot of players shoot for 50-100 Vitality before pumping Dexterity to high amounts. Personally, I think 75 Vitality is enough for Hardcore and base Vitality for Softcore.

Edit: I would also like to add that you don't need to use both Strafe and Multishot. Choose one and invest leftover points into Dodge, Evade and Avoid. You could max Freezing Arrow to help kill Physical Immune monsters but if you already have a solution then 1 point plus +skills is enough to freeze monsters for a good duration.

If you have a Razortail belt then you will need 9 Pierce to have an 100% chance to Pierce making the Razortail belt a popular choice for Bowazons. Another good item to have is Demonlimb on switch to help with Attack Rating so you wont need to invest more than one point into Penetrate.