Am I crazy or is this REDICULOUS

[fhji]

Hi, i'm new to the forums and just wanted to know what any of its experts had to think about this. I am a poor lowly zealot, trying to climb the ranks. One day i was drooling over some of the dream gear that I was hoping of getting someday, when I started to see a trend. A lot of the new runewords give the wearer a really high lvl pally offensive aura. Then I realized that with the help of a merc, a pally can have a TON of enhanced damage. For example:

Pally gear:

Weapon: Last Wish (lvl 17 might) or Botd (huge base dmg)
Armor: Fortitude(300% ed)
Shield: Pheonix (350-400+% ed)
Helm: COA w/ um's for res
Boots: Gores for cb or Tearhaunch for res
Gloves: Draculs for leech/lifetap or Steelrends for str/ed (40-60%)
belt: Nosferatus for leech


When you add a merc in it gets real interesting though...


Act 2 Defiance Mercenary (if using Last wish)

Weapon: Pride (lvl 16-20 concentration)
Armor: ? Bramble maybe
Helm: Tals Mask (leech)


Also, as a zealer, my skills will most likely be...

Sacrifice: 20
Zeal: 20
Fanatacism: 20
Holy Shield: 20
Defiance: rest



So in the end (with last wish) it is possible to have almost lvl 20 of ALL the pally's best offensive aura's active w/ a merc...

lvl 17 might (Last Wish) 200% ed
lvl 20 concentration (pride merc) 345% ed
lvl 20+ fanat (active skill aura) min 375% ed, 35% ias, 135% ar
lvl ? defiance (merc aura)
lvl 15 redemption (phoenix)

AND you can have tons of ed from gear (fortitude & phoenix)


I dont know if this is viable or not, but to me it seems like A TON of damage coming from a pally. The gear is rediculously expensive, but if done right, you can probably even grab good resistances with coa and good starting mods on the shield. If anybody finds this as crazy/rediculous/impossible as me, please let me know. Let me know if this is a dumb idea too, b/c ill take any criticism. Thanks guys

[HeavAngel]

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[gorash]

weapon - grief. simple choice. has ias, huge dmg. lowest grief does more dmg then a 415 ebotdz. my zealer personally likes edeathZ.
last wish even though has lvl 17 might which is 200ed i believe is weak.

armor - fort

ammy - highlords

rings - dual leech w/ stats and resists
raven

shield - exile ed/ar (for mass defence if u want). otherwise ed/ar base shield for phoenix (base shields can start with 65/121 which means that highest phoenix roll can have 465ed)

helm - 2x ber coa or 80/30 coa (depends on weapon)

boots - gores

gloves - dual leech gloves w/ stats, ias, resists (also depends on weapon)

belt - dungos (gives nice vit and dr)

merc: a2 might

weapon - eth pride ca
armor - eth cubed fort
helm - eth andys

zealots dont need redemption espically in pvp. the ed/ar is nice though, most will choose exile over phoenix due to having lack of block compared to exile as well as exile giving that defiance aura which gives huge defence.

[zalt]

Yes you can have alot of different auras active at the same time these days.
Its nothing crazy with it :wink3: just plain fun:jig:

[the gopher]

Hey, Welcome to the forums and like everyone else said yes you can have different auras going at once and basically you can have quite a few auras coming from merc to help damage. One thing is this could be varied between pvp and pvm depending on what your doing.

[DmUgluk]

Yes you can have alot of different auras active at the same time these days.
Its nothing crazy with it :wink3: just plain fun:jig:
It has exceeded the boundaries of fun, its plainly lame now :shocked:

[TheBassman]

I'd Have to agree with DMUgluk, When any char can have almost any aura the game has taken an odd twist, I'm not saying I hate the new RWs but where are the good ol' 09 days, where 'Cruel Mythical Swords of Evisceration' were the Sweetest Zealot Weapon, and WF was the best weapon in the entire game. Where glass cannons roamed freely through the blood moor spamming her GAs without fear of the dreaded BSpirit spamming, Teleing Necro, or a Pally With a Level 44 Holyfire and Conviction, eleminating you with a few pulses. They can be fun, but imagine yourself walking about killing a few sorcs with your charge and a Doom, eExile, Fana Smiter Comes out and destroys you while you can't move. there's no fun in that.

Wow I ranted on for quite a bit there. Come BACK 09!!!! :hanky:

[Terenas]

Wow I ranted on for quite a bit there. Come BACK 09!!!! :hanky:
I think that a privately run 1.09d server exists somewhere, for pvp and such...

[kingdryland]

Wow I ranted on for quite a bit there. Come BACK 09!!!! :hanky:

I surely am fed up with all those teleporting builds but going back to 1.09? With burizons dominating? No thanks.

[arDAWG]

As to Last Wish, I think mostly those who disparage it have not tried it. I have an uber smiter based on Pougees's guide (stat and point-wise) and I recently swapped out gear, as I'm always looking for ultimate Uber build. I traded a 2 ber'ed 15%/27 res CoA for a nice stash of hr's & decided to build a Last Wish in a sup 6os PB I found. I switched out DeathZ for LW and Guillaume's for an um'ed, up'ed Rockstopper (for more res). Crushing Blow = 67% from LW and 15% from Gores, which comes out to 82%, enuff for me. I was skeptical about the apparent low damage of the LW PB, but was pleasently surprised. Turns out this setup is even better, in my experience, than DeathZ. He seems to kill faster and the might, fade and even more tap (& a higher level tap than dracs, I might add) helps tons. I've dun ubers in up to 5 players games w/ no problem so far & only 1 death, due to lag. Recently I've been diverted by doing ubers w/ other chars--Frenzy barb w/ Last Wish, eBotD and a bowazon namely, but when Meph is in a really bad mood and I start running into trouble, I always go back to my Last Wish smiter. He's my best trist running char by far.

[kingdryland]

The level of life tap has only to do with the curse's radius. In uber tristram that is irrelevant, since tap will trigger on boss whether you are using a lvl 1 wand,drac's ,exile or LW.

[arDAWG]

The level of life tap has only to do with the curse's radius. In uber tristram that is irrelevant, since tap will trigger on boss whether you are using a lvl 1 wand,drac's ,exile or LW.
Thought it was radius and duration. Still Radius is nice cuz the minions are quite pesky when coupled w/ all the other stuff going on. My 1st thought was to lose Drac's and go w/ Laying of the Hands for damage to demons, IAS & fire res. But I ended up going back to Drac's for Open Wounds (nice % coupled w/ Gores)---really helps alleivate the massive regen of the ubers. Ne way, I still stand by the fact that Last Wish is a tremendous weapon. If it had IAS, it would be the best weapon in the game, bar none. :wink3:

[Terenas]

Thought it was radius and duration. Still Radius is nice cuz the minions are quite pesky when coupled w/ all the other stuff going on. :wink3:
You are right. I think that duration is useful because it allows you to get more swings to get life tap in, moreover, Last Wish ctc is double than Dracs.
To be honest, though, I find that if you have an attack that is itd and ictb your life is far easier than with a char that needs ar (I say this because I use lw on a frenzy barb), and you can be comfortable with 5% on Dracs (I use only Dracs on my zealot/smiter and I am fine enough (tried griefz but using Crescent Moon pb atm)).

Bye

[kingdryland]

Duration is irrelevant,since you 'll be recasting tap with smite often.

[mainaman]

id say life tap from last wish triggers much faster than from dracks, it eliminates the need of lifetap and, and also allows for loh gloves and in combo with coh one gets 550%dmg do demons --result is mephy down in less than 5 sec (if that matters at all he he)
but i'd say last wish is not a good zealer pvp weapon, grief is

[kingdryland]

id say life tap from last wish triggers much faster than from dracks, it eliminates the need of lifetap and, and also allows for loh gloves and in combo with coh one gets 550%dmg do demons --result is mephy down in less than 5 sec (if that matters at all he he)
but i'd say last wish is not a good zealer pvp weapon, grief is

Then use exile for even faster life tap cast,loh,coh and grief, since it has damage to demons as well.

[arDAWG]

Next time I uber I plan to experiement with LoH...I just hate losing the Open Wounds on Drac's. I still have OW from Gores, but w/ both I have a large percentage. I went w/ LoH on my Frenzy barb (who has LW and eth BotD CB), when I tried ubers w/ him, he couldn't do enuff damage against meph to offset his life regen. Of course, I had marrow's on him and I've since gone to Drac's//Gore's. IMO, Open Wounds r an important component against ubers.

[kingdryland]

Yes open wounds are very important,but the case with smite is that it is fast and it hits almost always. OW has an 8 second duration. With smite you'll trigger it quickly and you will keep it on all the time. Gores are enough.

[arDAWG]

Yes open wounds are very important,but the case with smite is that it is fast and it hits almost always. OW has an 8 second duration. With smite you'll trigger it quickly and you will keep it on all the time. Gores are enough.

K...did not know that...ty 4 the info. I know w/out ne OW--well, that doesn't work so well. TBH, the only really difficulty to dealing w/ Ubers is Meph...the minions rate a distant 2nd (esp, the PI spectres who get in between smiter and boss). Once Meph is dead it's cake. :wink3:

[kingdryland]

Spectres are baal's minions actually.

[arDAWG]

Spectres are baal's minions actually.

Yeah I just meant minions, in general. :wink3:
But, namely, the PI ones--spectres and ghoul lords...ne way azure or a FamineZ on the switch takes care them pretty easily.

[kingdryland]

Yeah, I call famine the ultimate weapon for lazy zealots that can't be bothered to switch for PI's :)

[fhji]

how do the damage multipliers work with relation to gear/auras? I heard somewhere that ed from weapon is calculated before ed from auras, so does that mean that the aura multiply the ed on the weapon? I also heard that ed from gear is calculated different too. Im just curious. Oh yea, and thanks everybody for your posts, they really helped

[Bobofet]

i think that nomatter how the ed is multiplied, you would come up with the same damage in the end