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Ok, so, read the guides, loved em thanks dyn...watched the videos, damn mcm you rock big time..got the gear put in the right stats, no problems right? wrong unfortunetly. I now have a lvl 87 ww barb on USEast Ladder who is without a doubt the best dueling char I have ever had, thanks to the info i got from here. But I have a few questions that i would really appreciate some in depth answers too if all you godly barbs out there can help me out.
But before i get to the questions i know your all dying to answer..here are my stats just so you know
Str-70 +items
dex-base + items
Vit-Over 500..not sure exactly
Energy-none. not that dumb!
Gear:::
Arreats w/ Um
Enigma/Fort
400+% (dont remember exact) ebotdz/Beast (ss in stash)
arach/15% dungos/Tgods
Raven/angelic/rare ll ring(need another raven i think)
Highlords/angelic
gore riders
Dracs/bloodfist/trang ouls gloves
25x 20 life scs (all i could get, few have minor mods)
2x 12%fhr gc with ar and max dmg
anni
torch
6081 life (all stats with prebuff)
11k defense
15000ar with angelics..with not...eh..lets not say
all res 64 w/ psn maxed.
Okay..so now, here are my questions that i would really like some expert opinions on.
P.S. I just started dueling and I am not expecting to be a god at it alrdy..just want some helpful advice from people who ARE gods at it.
1) Dueling hammerdins w/o widowmaker(cant find one!) who stay in their own hammerfield? i read to throw my wc weps at them but that awesome 20 dmg wont exactly send them running.
2) Shift fighters..how am i suppose to ww a smiter who wont move and i cant get a clear shot of without eating a smite or two(or lit thrust)?
3)Does DR work on smite? I know block doesnt but ?
4)sorcs who just wont stop teleing no matter what? Leap can sometimes get me close but i dunno if my timing needs work or if there is a better way of doing things?
5)Trappers are not hard as long as i can get enuf fhr to get away from MB
6)how much better is it to get a namelock tele on someone as oppose to getting a tele next to them? i find that if i namelock, switch to ww and click i offten end up swining at them which usually = death
So there it is..my questions that have probably been answered already but i felt the need to ask anyway hehe. Thank you in advance for any responces. I look forward to seeing what advice you all have for me.
Hazzar
Imbecile
26-03-2006, 17:03
Ok, so, read the guides, loved em thanks dyn...watched the videos, damn mcm you rock big time..got the gear put in the right stats, no problems right? wrong unfortunetly. I now have a lvl 87 ww barb on USEast Ladder who is without a doubt the best dueling char I have ever had, thanks to the info i got from here. But I have a few questions that i would really appreciate some in depth answers too if all you godly barbs out there can help me out.
But before i get to the questions i know your all dying to answer..here are my stats just so you know
Str-70 +items
dex-base + items
Vit-Over 500..not sure exactly
Energy-none. not that dumb!
Gear:::
Arreats w/ Um
Enigma/Fort
400+% (dont remember exact) ebotdz/Beast (ss in stash)
arach/15% dungos/Tgods
Raven/angelic/rare ll ring(need another raven i think)
Highlords/angelic
gore riders
Dracs/bloodfist/trang ouls gloves
25x 20 life scs (all i could get, few have minor mods)
2x 12%fhr gc with ar and max dmg
anni
torch
6081 life (all stats with prebuff)
11k defense
15000ar with angelics..with not...eh..lets not say
all res 64 w/ psn maxed.
Okay..so now, here are my questions that i would really like some expert opinions on.
P.S. I just started dueling and I am not expecting to be a god at it alrdy..just want some helpful advice from people who ARE gods at it.
1) Dueling hammerdins w/o widowmaker(cant find one!) who stay in their own hammerfield? i read to throw my wc weps at them but that awesome 20 dmg wont exactly send them running.
2) Shift fighters..how am i suppose to ww a smiter who wont move and i cant get a clear shot of without eating a smite or two(or lit thrust)?
3)Does DR work on smite? I know block doesnt but ?
4)sorcs who just wont stop teleing no matter what? Leap can sometimes get me close but i dunno if my timing needs work or if there is a better way of doing things?
5)Trappers are not hard as long as i can get enuf fhr to get away from MB
6)how much better is it to get a namelock tele on someone as oppose to getting a tele next to them? i find that if i namelock, switch to ww and click i offten end up swining at them which usually = death
So there it is..my questions that have probably been answered already but i felt the need to ask anyway hehe. Thank you in advance for any responces. I look forward to seeing what advice you all have for me.
Hazzar
leap >>>>> hammerdins in hammerfields
Zangetsu
26-03-2006, 17:47
1) Widwomaker should be cheap to buy.
2) Whatever you do don't ww directly into them or you die. Get them from the sides. It would help to use doom because it slows them down.
3) Yes smite is physical dmg so dr reduces it.
4) If you are using leap to get close don't do that. Tele near them then leap and kill
5) Is this a question?
6) Name lock isnt absolutely necesary. It is just more convenient because you are on top of them and you can do one of those triangle whirls and I heard that it always hits wen you are on top but I tried and it is not always true. I suppose that it can be blocked, or dodged.
mainaman
26-03-2006, 18:35
Ok, so, read the guides, loved em thanks dyn...watched the videos, damn mcm you rock big time..got the gear put in the right stats, no problems right? wrong unfortunetly. I now have a lvl 87 ww barb on USEast Ladder who is without a doubt the best dueling char I have ever had, thanks to the info i got from here. But I have a few questions that i would really appreciate some in depth answers too if all you godly barbs out there can help me out.
But before i get to the questions i know your all dying to answer..here are my stats just so you know
Str-70 +items
dex-base + items
Vit-Over 500..not sure exactly
Energy-none. not that dumb!
Gear:::
Arreats w/ Um
Enigma/Fort
400+% (dont remember exact) ebotdz/Beast (ss in stash)
arach/15% dungos/Tgods
Raven/angelic/rare ll ring(need another raven i think)
Highlords/angelic
gore riders
Dracs/bloodfist/trang ouls gloves
25x 20 life scs (all i could get, few have minor mods)
2x 12%fhr gc with ar and max dmg
anni
torch
6081 life (all stats with prebuff)
11k defense
15000ar with angelics..with not...eh..lets not say
all res 64 w/ psn maxed.
Okay..so now, here are my questions that i would really like some expert opinions on.
P.S. I just started dueling and I am not expecting to be a god at it alrdy..just want some helpful advice from people who ARE gods at it.
1) Dueling hammerdins w/o widowmaker(cant find one!) who stay in their own hammerfield? i read to throw my wc weps at them but that awesome 20 dmg wont exactly send them running.
2) Shift fighters..how am i suppose to ww a smiter who wont move and i cant get a clear shot of without eating a smite or two(or lit thrust)?
3)Does DR work on smite? I know block doesnt but ?
4)sorcs who just wont stop teleing no matter what? Leap can sometimes get me close but i dunno if my timing needs work or if there is a better way of doing things?
5)Trappers are not hard as long as i can get enuf fhr to get away from MB
6)how much better is it to get a namelock tele on someone as oppose to getting a tele next to them? i find that if i namelock, switch to ww and click i offten end up swining at them which usually = death
So there it is..my questions that have probably been answered already but i felt the need to ask anyway hehe. Thank you in advance for any responces. I look forward to seeing what advice you all have for me.
Hazzar
im on east ladder /w *mainaman
ill show you how to duel smiter
and i might be able to find you a widowmaker- let me know
I am also on east ladder yet have slowed down a little on playing (real busy lately) yet am trying to finish lvling my new baba. If maniaman does not have a widow I know I have spares and one for sure that has +5 GA I can give you free.
Dennis_KoreanGuy
26-03-2006, 20:10
Dueling hammerdins w/o widowmaker(cant find one!) who stay in their own hammerfield? i read to throw my wc weps at them but that awesome 20 dmg wont exactly send them running.
2) Shift fighters..how am i suppose to ww a smiter who wont move and i cant get a clear shot of without eating a smite or two(or lit thrust)?
3)Does DR work on smite? I know block doesnt but ?
4)sorcs who just wont stop teleing no matter what? Leap can sometimes get me close but i dunno if my timing needs work or if there is a better way of doing things?
5)Trappers are not hard as long as i can get enuf fhr to get away from MB
6)how much better is it to get a namelock tele on someone as oppose to getting a tele next to them? i find that if i namelock, switch to ww and click i offten end up swining at them which usually = death
So there it is..my questions that have probably been answered already but i felt the need to ask anyway hehe. Thank you in advance for any responces. I look forward to seeing what advice you all have for me.
Hazzar
1) Get near the edge of their Hammerfield. As long as you have lvl 14 or up Leap, that will give you plenty of radius. Leap couple times, then 95% of them will tele on you after Hammer knockback Hammer knockback. Too bad for them because you are a smart dood and already WWing in your spot, expecting them huh?
2) WW with Zerkers has range of 3, while Smite of PB has range of 2. If a Smiter is ever noob enough to hold position and smite against you, chip them off the side making a large triangle shape. They will never hit you, and you will hit them. (To make this work, you need to not make any physical contact with them graphically, but you are hitting them.) If they be offensive and start Smiting after you, just WW away from them continually. They will left namelock you, but they will rarely hit you as you have bigger range + wwing away. WW Barb > Smiters + Hammerdins.
3) DR does and helps greatly against Smite. Lose FCR / Res stuff for DR this case. I used to use Doom + Clegs + CoA + Angelics. Yes I'm bm.
4) 40~63% FCR (Spider, Rings, maybe Glove). Get in their screen, Leap once, then tele + ww.
5) Absorb is the only easy way to beat trappers. A Wisp + TGods will do.
6) They both work. Namelock is preferred because then I can do the unsummon + tele.
Teehee i'm a god.:laugh:
w8w8...gods dont make mistakes :P, wth is a spider?
Wow! quick responses! thank you all so much already for all of the info. feel like im better dueler alrdy lol. Gotcha..what is your account name on useast? and @maina--sounds good..ill try to get a hold of you sometime soon. Only thing i didnt understand about the info was the "spider" dunno what that was?
Anyways thanks again for all of the helpful info, glad to see that people are still willing to help others heh.
Hazzar
RetroStar
26-03-2006, 21:50
w8w8...gods dont make mistakes :P, wth is a spider?
You know that Arachnids Mesh thing.
Zangetsu
26-03-2006, 21:57
The only belt with 1 all skills on it
Dennis_KoreanGuy
26-03-2006, 23:21
You know how people call Harlequin Crest "Shako", even though Shako is just a mere item type and "Harlequin Crest" is the real name.
Arachnid Mesh, Spider belt. Hence "Spider". Its really common term, so where have you 'non-gods' been? Foolish mortal idiots.^^
when dueling trappers you can get out of mb lock with ww.
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