View Full Version : PVM Hell level Baal-minions failed miserably.
Mauselium
25-03-2006, 05:00
My question is how high of a level do I need to be to be able to handle Baal? And any good ways to take him out? Mauselium is 83rd level and handles world-keep and throne of destuction quite easily. Then I got to Baal with 29 minions, I can have 34 total. I used decrepify and shot my bone spirit like I did against him in nightmare, He wasnt going down at all, quickly switched to resist all and he went down but didn't even get to the L in his name by the time I had 5 minions left and I wasted 12 full rej., cause he doubled. Decided I couldn't take him yet and got out of there. I have 11 skeletons and mages and mastery is just as high as skeletons. Yeah my resistance is awful, as awful can get but always had enough hp that I don't die much and have always been able to get my body back with no armor if I did die. SO what should I do? I like Diablo, but I'm not the most informed or best player and would like advice.
AnimeCraze
25-03-2006, 05:23
Simple. Put obedience on merc, and Baal dies in 2 minutes maximum. If you are on NL, consider Guillaume's Face. Crushing blow is the one and only true boss killer in the game.
kingdryland
25-03-2006, 05:29
Clay golem,decrepify etc etc can make baal slower than Replay :) Crushing blow works wonders,true. If you have beast (which i guess you don't) you can smack him yourself (if your setup allows you to melee) . Else,just follow what Anime said. Blunderbore family of monsters have crushing blow as well,revive a couple of those and watch baal being annihilated.
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harley98
25-03-2006, 18:06
i had basically the same set up as you do and the way i did it was like this. cast a clay golem next to baal to slow him down. cast amp on baal. let minions kill baal. its good to have some fast run/walk on a melee merc so he can get to baal before skel do, that way he can do some damage instead of being in the shadows doing nothing.
decrep is good but with that many minions amp works better.
Necrochild313
25-03-2006, 18:51
Simple. Put obedience on merc, and Baal dies in 2 minutes maximum. If you are on NL, consider Guillaume's Face. Crushing blow is the one and only true boss killer in the game.
Amen .
Masamune
25-03-2006, 20:38
I'm fairly new to diablo so plz forgive the newb question... I did check diabloii.net for the obedience runeword but I couldn't find any info on it. Could someone plz tell me how exactly to make this ?
i noticed you said that when he created a clone you were having trouble staying alive, the easy solution is to go back to town for about 60-90 sec and the clone will have disapeared. it will also let all your skeletons pop up all together near baal.
jackfunk
25-03-2006, 21:37
for Masa,
Obedience - 5 Socket Polearms: Hel + Ko + Thul + Eth + Fal
30% Chance To Cast Level 21 Enchant When You Kill An Enemy
40% Faster Hit Recovery
+370% Enhanced Damage
-25% Target Defense
Adds 3-14 Cold Damage 3 Second Duration (Normal)
-25% To Enemy Fire Resistance
40% Chance of Crushing Blow
+200-300 Defense (varies)
+10 To Strength
+10 To Dexterity
All Resistances +20-30 (varies)
Requirements -20%
Also check out,
Duress - 3 Socket Body Armor: Shael + Um + Thul
+40% Faster Hit Recovery
+10-20% Enhanced Damage (varies)
Adds 37-133 Cold Damage 2 sec. Duration (Normal)
15% Chance of Crushing Blow
33% Chance of Open Wounds
+150-200% Enhanced Defense (varies)
-20% Slower Stamina Drain
Cold Resist +45%
Lightning Resist +15%
Fire Resist +15%
Poison Resist +15%
Also the unique Spear,
Hone Sundan - Yari
Two-Hand Damage: (95-107) To (193-217) (144-162 Avg)
Required Level: 37
Required Strength: 101
Base Weapon Speed: [0]
Durability: 28
+160-200% Enhanced Damage (varies)
Adds 20-40 Damage
45% Chance of Crushing Blow
Repairs 1 Durability In 10 Seconds
Socketed (3)
Masamune
25-03-2006, 22:07
thanks for the great info :D
res shouldn't be an issue for your minions...cept tomb vipers at nihks temple...lilith...baal (taking out my mages...)
in anycase like previously stated...if you want to run baal allot use a merc with CB...otherwise it will take you like 3 mins to kill him (long time to stand around casting curses)
on the other hand...what has worked for me is thorns based aura (edge or bramble rune word) this sped up my boss killing dramatically (andy/meph 10-20 secs, diablo ~30secs)...but this will only help with melee bosses, just make sure you amp the bosses to return the massive dmg....
in anycase there are a few threads about thorns aura mf summoners
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=438153
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=308953
enjoy
the easiest way would definitely be some source of CB and a lot of slow (ice mages, decrepify, slow target mod, clay golem - hehehehe)
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