View Full Version : Challenge to all fury wolves
fredsta54
20-03-2006, 22:27
^Ok by now i think ive gotten your attention. I would first like to say that this is not trolling, flaming, or anythign of the like.
TCPI Connection duels. You on your best possible legitly made wolf, me on my best possibly made smiter.
Why? ... I would like to show that a good smiter can beat a good fury wolf without trouble... Running, 50 dr, range 5 shift furying= not a problem, at least in my eyes and i would like proof that you can win the matchup^^
Alternatively I would like to play as a melee phys dmg based wwsin...
I am not intending to start a fight, merely to test my skills against yours, the best shifters vs... Characters most consider to be superior
(i do NOT underestimate fury wolfs btw)
Fred
stoutewolf
20-03-2006, 22:46
maybe u have to post ur realm and what are u trying to proof? we all know that smiters are overpowered(it seems that blizzard likes paladins)
i am in if u are on europe
ToThePoint
20-03-2006, 22:53
maybe u have to post ur realm and what are u trying to proof? we all know that smiters are overpowered(it seems that blizzard likes paladins)
i am in if u are on europe
hes on open so all can play him - you just need to edit your char to whats possible then duel.
stoutewolf
20-03-2006, 23:08
hes on open so all can play him - you just need to edit your char to whats possible then duel.
ok
10chars
inkanddagger
20-03-2006, 23:47
pm me about this, i'm game for it.
stoutewolf
21-03-2006, 00:16
well just a question...what equip are you using as a smiter? i know mine already :jig:
inkanddagger
21-03-2006, 02:12
do you happen to have an a SSP tomb reaver that you can email me?
I don't have one in any of saved files. can use ebotdgpa for testing though
fredsta54
21-03-2006, 02:21
Yes just make legit lvl 99's for open... Fine-tune them and we will actually do this in a couple of days most likely.
I wont tell you my gear, and it should also be secret since this is a specific matchup, gear will be altered :)
But yeah smiters are lame i hate them i just happen to know that they hurt like a ***** and i happen to be able to desynch/tele smite like a pro
Although, i think i will be going with an phys dmg based wwsin O.o
Fred
tehre needs to be rules set. liek tele, amp, lifetap, etc
mepersoner
21-03-2006, 14:10
No there doesn't. Just man up.
Duels with life tap allowed is kinda weird. I dont know how you guys can kill a melee guy while life tapped. Atleast i suck at it :laugh:
xpumafangx
21-03-2006, 23:18
You can kill some one when your life tapped. Just need alot of damage being delt, and openwounds/alot of poison damage.
RareBear
21-03-2006, 23:36
maybe u have to post ur realm and what are u trying to proof? we all know that smiters are overpowered(it seems that blizzard likes paladins)
i am in if u are on europe
Yes, it is a fact that Blizzard loves Paladins.
xpumafangx
22-03-2006, 15:12
I will need one of those programs inorder to do this so.
stoutewolf
22-03-2006, 15:41
I will need one of those programs inorder to do this so.
i need one aswell (never made a char @open)
zonfire- hero editor is the best program i belive
xpumafangx
22-03-2006, 20:24
Ok you said what it is but you didn't say where it is.
I know where you can get the most up to date version of this editor but it's unlikely that I would be allowed to post a link to the site..
um, raise your hand if you'd like a pm
Archedgar
23-03-2006, 02:22
Smiters aren't overpowered... Grief is bugged, there's a pretty big difference between a non grief using smiter, and a grief user.
Blizzard should fix the bug already...
Paladins have been the most neglected class of D2 classic and D2x, with the sole exception of this patch, due to 1 skill and a runeword bug... people complain too much about that really.
pipi-owner
23-03-2006, 02:43
a smiter dont need a grief to win his duels.. grief just simply makkes the job done faster..
smiter- a melee that DONT need ar... CANT be blocked..STUNS (unlike the maul stun on bears.. this ACTUALLY stuns them).. ALWAYS HITS... FAST like hell... and you get more dmg while getting more def and block as well (having HOLY SHIELD increase smite dmg is like sayin LYCANTHROPE increases dmg for fury/maul/fc etc.. bs)... ... and you can finish the build and own most pubbies by maxing 3 skills ... even with average gear..
its not that people complain.. its just that its the truth... any1 that defend smiters are people who probably havnt played any class thats not a cookie cutting char.. (im sure sum will say "YES I HAVE.. SHAME..".. ... i doubt it tho..)
cheers
PpZ
kingdryland
23-03-2006, 05:25
Grief damage isn't bugged,it is just not displayed. +damage modifier and what it does was well know before grief thx to astreon's redeemer etc.And I will agree, paladins re-emerged as a strong class after 1.10 was introduced. Smite isn't autowin. There are numerous classes that can give a smiter a run for his money. Before grief was introduced ,smite was a good skill that had qualities (ignore's block and defense etc) but had very limited damage output and could only leech via life tap. Leech status is the same now,but damage has increased,that's all. And smite can be clawblocked and dodged by amazons btw.
xpumafangx
23-03-2006, 17:54
um, raise your hand if you'd like a pm
Raises hand. Looks around for others.
inkanddagger
23-03-2006, 21:24
I have a druid made, ready to go.
I can send SP files to anyone who wants, pm me your email and gear specs.
I still need in SP: an eth tomb reaver, and a "legit" torch - I just moded a white large charm.
@puma: pm sent
@ink: I'd be willing to send you the items you still require
@the thread author: A question; how many different doggies are you willing to duel? I would like to throw my hat into the ring as a potential rep for the Druids if you'll accept another opponent
@puma: pm sent
@ink: I'd be willing to send you the items you still require
@the thread author: A question; how many different doggies are you willing to duel? I would like to throw my hat into the ring as a potential rep for the Druids if you'll accept another opponent
Raise my hand.. pm em plz =]
I still need in SP: an eth tomb reaver, and a "legit" torch - I just moded a white large charm.
Just make a new ethreal white item with all the mods of an eth tomb reaver. Same difference. The white large charm is fine unless people are retarded.
Raise my hand.. pm em plz =]Sent
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KillaBrothers
24-03-2006, 11:35
Invite a barb to kick the crud out of ya all :laugh:
Raises hand. Looks around for others.
Another raised hand
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me me , plz do not ignore me, for the fun of it :D
I know where you can get the most up to date version of this editor but it's unlikely that I would be allowed to post a link to the site..
um, raise your hand if you'd like a pm
The thing is, you have to supply with legitly made level 99 characters with unspent points. The editor can only change the level but not the appropriate stats (the rise of hp and mp per level)
swiftrunner
24-03-2006, 14:16
The thing is, you have to supply with legitly made level 99 characters with unspent points. The editor can only change the level but not the appropriate stats (the rise of hp and mp per level)
No, you don't. You can change each stat (life & mana per level) manually. You just need to find info on how much life/mana each char gains per level.
dymi & Rabbitz: Pm sent
o god lol...i've been playing this damm game for so long and never knew i could have had my own test area on my comp >,<
think of all the time ive spend to get 'perf' eqp and then decided i didnt like the char :(
I know where you can get the most up to date version of this editor but it's unlikely that I would be allowed to post a link to the site..
um, raise your hand if you'd like a pm
I'd like a pm on this please.
Like above said, I can plan every character way in advance down to the stat points:thumbsup:
oddcoffin
26-03-2006, 01:14
hey im not much of a dueler yet (someday hopefully) but i posted a thread asking about these "Char testers" and got yelled at....
so heres my hand up :wave: and hey what the hell if im gonna get wasted in a duel may as well be by some forum pros so i can learn sumthin right lol
inkanddagger
26-03-2006, 03:10
my AIM is TreesInFlames.
Anyone PM me, I will talk more - i can custom make characters for you and email or aim them to you. Also, I will host these on my IP since it seems like we have interest but, uhm, no progress.
Let's move this off these forums though, were this sort of stuff is generally frowned upon, and talk to me on AIM. I am really diggin the fact that people from all over can larn something =)
fredsta54
26-03-2006, 20:17
Im sorry but i dont actually have a functional copy of d2 anymore. Im hoping to fix it soon
<original thread author>
Hell, you guys can still duke it out tho ~~
Ill bump this thread when im good to go
Fred
mepersoner
26-03-2006, 23:11
"I challenge you to a duel! Wait... you're not afraid of my paladiness?"
/dodges
Dennis_KoreanGuy
26-03-2006, 23:41
Making a serious "legit" and "perf" char on open = insane time spent required.
Meh when will people stop whining about Smiters / Hdins jeez. Its freaking free people. FREE. Get with the program and understand that D2 of all in life, is unfair. Don't expect perfectly free world where everyone is happy happy with no bm / nkers / sorbers / scammers and least of all, builds that just own you.
Make the feckin cookiecutters yourself or make builds that are effective against them or play goddamn wow. Jeez "cry more plz"? -.-
I can email some items and stuff, and can help with the final checking (somebody might have screwed up a stat / skill point, i.e. 384 str when it should be 383 and 1 more / less life = non legit / non perf).
mepersoner
27-03-2006, 00:53
Making a serious "legit" and "perf" char on open = insane time spent required.
Meh when will people stop whining about Smiters / Hdins jeez. Its freaking free people. FREE. Get with the program and understand that D2 of all in life, is unfair. Don't expect perfectly free world where everyone is happy happy with no bm / nkers / sorbers / scammers and least of all, builds that just own you.
Make the feckin cookiecutters yourself or make builds that are effective against them or play goddamn wow. Jeez "cry more plz"? -.-
Why are you ranting in this forum/thread about this?
Making a serious "legit" and "perf" char on open = insane time spent required.Actually no, it was quite simple and didn't take especially long to do
when will people stop whining about Smiters / HdinsNever
Get with the program and understand that D2 of all in life, is unfair.I'm pretty sure that most if not all of the people that have posted have learned this lesson already
Don't expect perfectly free world where everyone is happy happy with no bm / nkers / sorbers / scammers and least of all, builds that just own you.Again, I think it's fairly safe to say that a fairly large percentage of the people who will end up reading this thread already know what to not expect when they log on (ie. people who have been playing this game longer than a day)
Make the feckin cookiecutters yourself or make builds that are effective against themWhy? Sometimes people (Even duelers) like to be different and play the class/build they find the most fun and not the proverbial 'ownage pker' If everyone were to be so obsessed with winning in duels we should all abuse every available hack/3rd party prog and use desync/juv/sorb hammerdins. Of course some people DO do that, some of us draw the line at a character that has a good winning % against all opponents in legit dueling, and some of us like to play more niche builds like melee wolves or simply melee duel in general
I would concede though, that if you do play an underpowered build for dueling, you should know what you're getting yourself into (Although it seems like the people that play things like fury wolves are already veterans and it's the new people that jump on the cookiecutter bandwaggon more often than not)
Dennis_KoreanGuy
27-03-2006, 06:59
Actually no, it was quite simple and didn't take especially long to do
Really? So you suppose you got all the tiniest mods correct with exact stamina / dex replica of "perfect" right in short time? Amazing.
Never
You're right. People will never.
I'm pretty sure that most if not all of the people that have posted have learned this lesson already
Apparently not because so many people on these forums whine about these things. You don't whine about something you understand the reason for, or atleast for things that you understand well.
Again, I think it's fairly safe to say that a fairly large percentage of the people who will end up reading this thread already know what to not expect when they log on (ie. people who have been playing this game longer than a day)
And yet there are people who have not been playing this game longer than a day. They appear more by day it seems.
Why? Sometimes people (Even duelers) like to be different and play the class/build they find the most fun and not the proverbial 'ownage pker' If everyone were to be so obsessed with winning in duels we should all abuse every available hack/3rd party prog and use desync/juv/sorb hammerdins. Of course some people DO do that, some of us draw the line at a character that has a good winning % against all opponents in legit dueling, and some of us like to play more niche builds like melee wolves or simply melee duel in general
I never said anything that disagrees with this. I myself am an enjoyer of non cookiecutter builds, I'm just telling everyone to stop making them if you're still going to whine about builds that just have downright advantages to yours.
I would concede though, that if you do play an underpowered build for dueling, you should know what you're getting yourself into (Although it seems like the people that play things like fury wolves are already veterans and it's the new people that jump on the cookiecutter bandwaggon more often than not)
I like fury druids + have made one in 1.10. Yet you seem to be whining (atleast very subtly) about how many cookie cutters there are.
inkanddagger
27-03-2006, 07:27
It takes me about 5 minutes to make a SP character with exact legit stats now.
arreat summitt tells you how to do the easy math.
Also - the only "downright" advantage smite has over fury is hellfire torch stun lock with smite swirlies. Even grief isn't as bad as you might think - fury has an advantage with range, and knockback makes smite a disadvantage.
Dennis, I think you took some of what I said out of context; I was esentially only refering to the people that have posted and/or read THIS thread, as I thought your comments about 'whining' were directed towards them and I felt that they weren't doing any such thing. (Which is why, I imagine, mep asked you about your post)
I do not whine about the state of the game (it is one after all) because I know thats utterly useless. I could type capitalized obscenities at people in d2 until my fingers bled but that wouldn't change anything of course. yeah I prefered 09 private dueling to .11 pubs but meh, if I have no other choice but to get a cookie to kill another cookie I will.. but I don't reeeeeeally care =/
Darkstorm
27-03-2006, 21:23
Can you PM me the files plz?
=/
Dennis_KoreanGuy
27-03-2006, 23:17
Also - the only "downright" advantage smite has over fury is hellfire torch stun lock with smite swirlies. Even grief isn't as bad as you might think - fury has an advantage with range, and knockback makes smite a disadvantage.
I doubt those firestorms are strong enough to put any Fury druids into a fhr animation.
I do not whine about the state of the game (it is one after all) because I know thats utterly useless. I could type capitalized obscenities at people in d2 until my fingers bled but that wouldn't change anything of course. yeah I prefered 09 private dueling to .11 pubs but meh, if I have no other choice but to get a cookie to kill another cookie I will.. but I don't reeeeeeally care =/
That's the spirit.
Can you PM me the files plz?
=/
Sure I'll give you the link
ToThePoint
27-03-2006, 23:28
I doubt those firestorms are strong enough to put any Fury druids into a fhr animation.
any damage does when you are 'stunned' from smite its not a matter of strength.
inkanddagger
28-03-2006, 00:30
0 fire dmg, as long as there is a fire dmg animation, will stun you.
You can test this by putting cyclone armor on, letting an assassin stun you and stick you in a wake of inferno. do that and get back to us, because what happens in a woi with swirlies is exactly what happens to a druid being hit by torch.
Dennis_KoreanGuy
28-03-2006, 02:28
0 fire dmg, as long as there is a fire dmg animation, will stun you.
Ehh forgot about swirlies. Wow even 0 damage too? :shocked:
Smiter with lots of ctc spell items = impossible stun lock?
btw any1 manage to actually battle someone on open yet?
inkanddagger
28-03-2006, 02:38
mrJ and I have been fury vs fury dueling some.
also - in 09 bugged 08 lightsabre was a popular smite item, 100% ctc lightning.
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