Another energy shield question

[hwy1005]

I read ES doesn't take into account resistances. Does that mean in hell, you effectively have -100 res all with energy shield active?

Also, since resistances doesn't matter with the es active anyways, what's the point of trying to add resistances in the first place? I am planning a sorc with high mana pool, maxed es/tk, with an insight merc. I can see how monsters with combination of mana burn and high elemental attacks will be dangerous, but provided that I always keep ES active, I shouldn't run into much of a problem elsewhere as far elemental attacks go, right?

[Jackson]

Yeah, I find that even with 1 point into ES, it's quite effective against all monsters in hell. The only trouble is, the more you get hit, the easier it is for you to die.

Like... first blow.. not a big deal....second blow... you're out of mana..third, and fourth and fifth, you're probably on the floor dead.

Almost all the deaths to my level 96 sorc (blizz) happens that way. It goes so fast that I dont even notice my energy shield's gone. ><

[ThunderMO]

hehe that's why I'm like the only guy that doesn't use es :P.

I go for high life together with resist and block :P (50% block and max resists in hell and you'll never die, and I have a base of 1000 hp, together with my bo I have 2.2k life, 1.2k mana, 3.3k defence and still 430%mf :P)

Grtz and honor,

Wesley

[Raistlin_Majere]

I read ES doesn't take into account resistances. Does that mean in hell, you effectively have -100 res all with energy shield active?


No - ES is taken into account before resistance (so 0 res, hells -100 penalty is not used here either). Some of the damage will then be taken from your mana pool and some for your life pool (dependiing on your TK level).


Also, since resistances doesn't matter with the es active anyways, what's the point of trying to add resistances in the first place?


For the damage on your life pool resistance is calculated as normal (as without ES). So resistance DO matter but the higher ES level you have the less important res is.

I am planning a sorc with high mana pool, maxed es/tk, with an insight merc. I can see how monsters with combination of mana burn and high elemental attacks will be dangerous, but provided that I always keep ES active, I shouldn't run into much of a problem elsewhere as far elemental attacks go, right?


Right - watch out for poison though - ES don't affect that

[Dawnmaster]

A crap ES sorc with full TK can handle most things in hell actually.

My old one had like 300 life, 2000 mana, 75 all res, 900 orb, 60% blocking and no damage reduction (except the magic one on vipermagi)

She only flew around at 70fcr but she could stand in hell travincal without a problem (except for mana burn)



My new sorc (a while ago before I quit) had 1k (base!) life, 4k mana, 75allres, 1k orb and 36% damage reduction (incase the ES wore off) and flying around at 105fcr that was.

EDIT: if you're concerned about poison, just dodge Andy and the watchers in tranvincal, the rest doesn't deal much poison, 75% resistance should be enough.

If you run Andy a lot and you can't dodge her for some reason, find a poison resistance shrine before fighting her (you'll be 100% imuun), take some antidotes, or wear items that give you a total of 175% poison length reduced (100% to negate the hell penalty, +75% to maximize the shorten length)

[CoyoteKid]

I normal would always make an ES whatever sorc. but lately have been experimenting with high life/no ES sorcs. to better utilize my skill points.
I seem to survive about the same with either set up.

[Swann]

My idea of ES'; Or put it in a high level (5 ES, 20 telkenesis,example, For people that dont know; while ES is absorbing more damage to your mana, his synergy telekenesis makes the absorbed damage drain less mana. (did i stated this correctly?) So the synergy telekenis helps a lot more then Es himself.) or dont't bother. Sorces with the standard equip (3piece tal,shako,occu etc....) Can manage fine with just 50Energy or even base energy. With 1 point ES on you are going to need a lot more.

That is also my biggest argument about enigma. the %damage to mana just bugs me out becuase i have base energy and tons of vitality. bliz means good with this, but its only working agains me.

Aegis-

[teamjason]

i am a big fan of having a nice size man pool (1200) with around 700hp.this is at lvl 84. i only put one point into energy sheild but with plus 9 to skills it works great. but again poison does own me

[Jackson]

Just another question to add on to the initial question about ES:

If you gain ES *only* from an item, such as a rare orb, will hard points into Telekinesis help it as a synergy? Or would I have to invest a point into ES?

[Dawnmaster]

Just another question to add on to the initial question about ES:

If you gain ES *only* from an item, such as a rare orb, will hard points into Telekinesis help it as a synergy? Or would I have to invest a point into ES?

Iirc the hard points in a skill can serve as a synergy for a skill you only have because of an item.

[nickedoff]

How do you have 'hard points' in it, if you got it from an item?

O.O

[Dawnmaster]

How do you have 'hard points' in it, if you got it from an item?

O.O

You put hard points in Telekineses and you get Energy Shield from an item :thumbsup: