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Go!!!
15-03-2006, 07:41
Well, first and fore most, I play on single player, but use a mod that allows me to use ladder only things, like the runewords, the items, and I can do ubers. I also play with two other people on a regular basis.

I'm bored with my Paladin right now (Zealot), and my Dragon Tail Assassin is alright, but I want a change of pace right now, something a bit different.
So I've tried to search for things on pvm fire trappers, but whenever I try the search thing always crashes, so I've checked through the faqs and see nothing about a pvm fire trapper, I'm assuming they're hard to make.

So I've decided to try and make a Fire trapper, so I want some advice.

Stats:
Strength: Enough for equipment
Dexterity: enough for equipment (I'll use weapon block)
Vitality: Rest
Erng: None

Skills:
Max Wake of Inferno
Max Wake of Fire
Max Fire Blast
Max Death Sentry
1 in BoS, 1 in Mind Blast, rest into Shadow Master, or until level 17 w/ + to skills.

I'm not sure if I should use Fade or Burst of Speed, and I'm completely lost for equipment. I know I can manage 2 +3 trap claws, a +2 assassin or +3 trap skill ammy, magefists, an assassin torch, and an anni.
I'm not sure about what to use for armor, smoke sounds good as my resists don't look very good, and a + traps ammy.
Any suggestions, critism, comments about viability?


Edit: Also my strategy would be to use Wake of Inferno as my main trap, and Death Sentry as support for Fire Immunes and the Corpse explosion, and use Fireblast when all 5 sentries are down. Another question, is fire blast effected by FCR or IAS?

ilkori
15-03-2006, 08:18
The reason you see almost nothing about PvM fire trappers is the low damage of fire traps, their inability to hit more than one thing at a time (or hit one thing often with WoF or FB), and the high frequency of fire immunes. Ironically, the best fire trap is Fire Blast, which just happens to synergize with all the lightning traps too. That means a Fire Blast/Light Sentry/Death Sentry (or other light sentry) build is the best you can hope for.

Check out jrichard's guide if you can load it.

BIGeyedBUG
15-03-2006, 10:36
Edit: Also my strategy would be to use Wake of Inferno as my main trap, and Death Sentry as support for Fire Immunes and the Corpse explosion, and use Fireblast when all 5 sentries are down. Another question, is fire blast effected by FCR or IAS?

WoI is not the easiest or most powerful skill in the world, particularly if you're used to LS. (If you're used to 1.09 traps, you'll probably think it's just fine.) You'll need patience, and you'll benefit a lot from placing traps carefully.

The thing that really hurts Fire Trappers though is FIs. Death Sentry helps a lot, but isn't enough on its own. There are several solutions, but they each have their disadvantages. My favored combo would be having a tough HF merc with a decent weapon; and using a 1 point Blade Fury. For the latter, Crescent Moon is just about ideal if you can swing the um.

Fire Blast is IAS, by the way.

SquinT
15-03-2006, 18:10
Fire Trappers are an insanely fun class to play. Yes, you will get some good challenge late in the game. I think challenge is good personally. I would however reccommend at least a point in tiger strike, if not more. The sheer physical damage it does is awesome. It also especially helps to get your first corpse for death sentry.

Have fun bathing the screen in fire, it really is alot of fun.

(BTW, first post woooo!)

ilkori
15-03-2006, 18:13
Welcome SquinT. :)

NewForumBloke
16-03-2006, 19:22
Ill tell ya man, my nl east fire trapper can do insane pwn'ing (when there arent barbs or good palas or other high resist chars on the field). I dont know how they can do in pvm though. I actually tried to make a pvm fire trapper for fun on hc once. She died in act 3... quickly... FI unique got me i think. If your going to go full fire trap a infinity may help you with the FI's in hell and nm difficulties. If im wrong ilkori will correct me proptly :azn: lol. Sadly you are better off with using lightning traps in pvm with death sentry and such. But fire trappers (1k+ trap ones) can pwn a lite trapper ne ol' day in my book lol (provided they dont have a huge resist to fire...)
GOOD LUCK MAN!! IM ROOTING FOR YA :thumbsup: !!

-BLoke :smug:

wizAdept
16-03-2006, 21:32
But fire trappers (1k+ trap ones) can pwn a lite trapper ne ol' day in my book lol (provided they dont have a huge resist to fire...)There has to be something seriously wrong with their gameplay or build for a light trapper to not have an advantage over a fire trapper in tvt.

It's been a while since I've seen any decent firetrappers. I know they can be a deadly force in pvp. If you are good I'd like to duel. What's your char name?

NewForumBloke
17-03-2006, 05:21
If your on nl us east id be more than happy to have a bit of bout, my chars name is XxSurprisexX and to be honest she's decent lol. I only do about 1k traps and i have 3200 life (exactly w/o bo) and i get 60% claw block and i have a lvl 17 shadow master :azn: . If you want ill show you the whole set up if we do go at it. Lmk man.

-BLoke :smug: