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PyroEra
14-03-2006, 23:33
if i use a stormlash, that means i use a shield too (SS) which means no weapon block? If you guys will, please tell me what you think about this uber killing setup.

Helm- Um'd Guilames
Ammy- Angelic
Rings- Angelic/Raven
Weapon- Jah'd Stormlash
Shield- SS
Armor- COH
Belt- Dungoes
Gloves- Dracs
Boots- Up'd Gores

Skills-
max Dragon Talon
max Fade
max Venom

1-5 Into Death Sentry
1-5 Into Dragon Flight for teleport




Along with the suggestions on my gearand skills, i was wondering how much guilames go for on useast ladder, and why i need no charge up skill.

JanusJones
15-03-2006, 00:35
Couple of issues, here. First off, CoH is great armor - but not for kickers. Unfortunately the enhanced damage to demons and undead are modifiers that do not work on kick skills (ah well!). You'd be better off throwing on a Duress to up your Crushing Blow, which is critical to a Dragon Talon build. You could also use Enigma, which would give you teleport and help you meet your Strength prerequisites for your boots and shield. Fortitude will help your kicks physical damage quite a bit as well.

Second, the Dungoes is overkill unless you're using Burst of Speed instead of Fade. Fade, if you get the gear to pre-buff it at level 15, will give you the DR you need (along with Stormshield's 35%) to hit 50%. This means that MAXING Fade is a mistake - don't do it. The returns are terrible - leave it at level one and use the appropriate gear to pre-buff it to level 15 (two +3 Shadow claws, Enigma, 2 SoJs, Anni, Torch). If you don't have access to such expensive equipment, simply pump your Fade until you hit 15 WITH pre-buff equip. I highly reccomend using Fade if you're planning on tangling with the Ubers, since Mephisto more or less requires you to have your resists stacked deeper than . . . well, a really deep hole.:grin:

Death Sentry at low levels is of limited to no use versus the ubers. The creatures in Uber-Tristram leave no corpses, making the normally godly corpse-explosion effect useless.

Consider pumping your Mind Blast a bit. This helps with the minions and keeps them occupied womping on each other instead of you.

Finally yes, you won't have weapon block if you use a shield. You WILL, however, be able to achieve max block (75%) by investing in Dexterity. If you pump your Dexterity enough to hit max block, you won't need all that AR from Angelic's. This frees you up to use Highlord's for some more IAS, Bul Kathos for skills and life - whatever you like. I suggest a little mana steal so you can't lose your blue.

Check out my guide or Ilkori's for more details. The links to them are on the builds thread.

PyroEra
15-03-2006, 00:45
ahh, veryhelpful ty.

so heres what i came up with.

scratch death sentry.
scrath maxing fade, put only a few points.
scratch COH, go for duress.
Few points into mind blast.
Scratch angelics, and go for mara and/bul kathos/ Dual Leech Ring

sounds good? anything i missed?

ShadyPhoenix
15-03-2006, 01:21
Here's what I use to great effect (though she's not battle tested against the Ubers just yet):

Shael'd Fleshripper
Um'd Guillaume's Face
Fortitude (30%)
PDiamond'd Stormshield
Dracul's Grasp
Nosferatu's Coil
Up'd Gore Riders
Raven Frost
Manald Heal (2nd Raven if against Ubers (probably))
Mara's Kaleidescope (24%)

Switch: Spirit/Spirit (with Enigma in Cube for transport)

This gives me ~180 to all resists, with much more in Cold and Lightning (Meph's two main attacks). His Conviction aura is level 20, giving me -125 resists (right?) so it looks like I'm still going to be suffering against his aura pretty badly. Sigh.

I solo the Chaos Sanctuary and Worldstone Keep very easily. It's sort of slow, but I don't die. I take down bosses extremely quickly, but my AR is very low (only 8k :/).

I'm thinking of trying to find some more 35 ar scs to make up for my low ar (my end goal is about 12k).

PyroEra
15-03-2006, 01:24
ty for reply, its cool to see other opinions, so probably instead of my ML rings ill go for ravens, or ML with AR lol. Whats mods on a nos?

ShadyPhoenix
15-03-2006, 01:28
ty for reply, its cool to see other opinions, so probably instead of my ML rings ill go for ravens, or ML with AR lol. Whats mods on a nos?
Slows Target By 10%
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
5-7% Life Stolen Per Hit (varies)
+15 To Strength
10% Increased Attack Speed
-3 To Light Radius

All are very juicy mods IMO. The 2 to mana is kind of insignificant, but remember that kicks only cost 2 mana. I use it largely for the 10% IAS, which helps me reach the 8/3 fpa (anything slower is just worthless IMO).

PyroEra
15-03-2006, 02:49
hmm, definantly agreed. definantly =) thx again

PyroEra
15-03-2006, 02:49
hmm, definantly agreed. definantly =) thx again