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azngeekguy
13-03-2006, 00:11
zealot aimin at gears...exile, gore, dracs, nosfertu coil, andy//coa, mara//highlord//metagrid, ravenfrost//dwarf?//fort
some people might say other gear would be better but im startin over from scatch so yea...these are probaly cheap..good gear that i MIGHT be able to get even though im a long way from it
question 1: wat merc would be better...might, blessed aim, defiance, holy freeze
might...not gettin right away cuz im not sure if the percent added stacks with fanatism or is it the higher damage one takes over
blessed aim...currently im aimin for ebotd bein on nonladder and grief and lastwish are harder to come by and the ebotd has no ignore defense so im not sure if ill be able to hit monsters with say....100 dex
defiance...increase defense but im aimin at exile too so that should probaly kick this merc out of the option
holy freeze...just for slowin things down so i don't get hit so fast i can't leech
question 2: goin back to the blessed aim merc..will i be able to hit say...ubers or baal minions in hell with 100 dex...give or take with some add attributes from items with ebotd....or do i have to go angelic....or does the -25% defense on the ebotd work well enough with zeal that say i hit 1 out of 10 times but each time it would increase my odds
question 3: so wat exactly does crushin blow, deadly strike, and open wound do...all this time i just know its good for melee but never knew wat it did
believe thats all my question for now...thanks to anyone who replies
Evrae Altana
13-03-2006, 00:27
zealot aimin at gears...exile, gore, dracs, nosfertu coil, andy//coa, mara//highlord//metagrid, ravenfrost//dwarf?//fort
some people might say other gear would be better but im startin over from scatch so yea...these are probaly cheap..good gear that i MIGHT be able to get even though im a long way from itCareful...Exile and CoA can cost several dozen runes.
1. Might can exist at the same time as Fanaticism. You'll receive the bonus of both auras. Therefore, use a Might merc.
2. Use Angelics, Ravenfrost, or AR charms to increase your chance to hit. Remember that your char level also affects how much you hit enemies.
3. crushing blow-chance to remove a percentage of a monster's life when you hit it. Much like Static Field except that the damage is physical and there's no cap.
deadly strike-chance of dealing double damage
open wounds-chance of causing opponent to bleed profusely. Much like poison but deals physical damage.
krischan
13-03-2006, 00:32
Equipment:
Shield - HoZ
Belt - T-God's
Helm - Andy/CoA
Amu - Highloard's
Ring - Raven+dual leech (no more mana leech needed for zeal)
Merc: Might, it stacks with fanaticism.
You don't need any further ar because tough monsters (act bosses, Übers) will be killed with smite (always hits, bypasses blocking) plus crushing blow equipment. 1 point in smite and Goreriders are enough for act bosses while the Übers need perhaps 50% crushing blow, e.g. from Stormlash or Guillaumes on top of Gores.
A crushing blow deals a certain fraction of the monster's current life, no matter how much life it has. the more life a monster has, the better CB is.
A deadly strike deals double damage, but it won't turn into quadruple damage if you already got x2 damage from e.g. critical strike or barb weapon mastery.
Open wounds deals damage over a certain time. It depends on the character level.
See the strategy compendium for further detail about OW, CB and CS, the link is in my sig.
azngeekguy
13-03-2006, 00:34
Careful...Exile and CoA can cost several dozen runes.
yea i remember exile costin like 4 hi or so but i got a somewat rich friend but stingy...hopefully he will help me out though and the coa...well thats where the andy comes in
and bout the AR again...do you think its better to sacrifice a unique amy for angelic or should raven frost and AR charms suffice
btw got better suggestion for rings and amy for zealot?
Evrae Altana
13-03-2006, 00:37
and bout the AR again...do you think its better to sacrifice a unique amy for angelic or should raven frost and AR charms suffice
btw got better suggestion for rings and amy for zealot?If this is PvM, then use Highlord's amulet. You don't need 3432233432 AR for PvM. 2 Ravenfrosts and the AR from Zeal and Fanaticism should be enough.
azngeekguy
13-03-2006, 00:52
Equipment:
Shield - HoZ
Belt - T-God's
Helm - Andy/CoA
Amu - Highloard's
Ring - Raven+dual leech (no more mana leech needed for zeal)
Merc: Might, it stacks with fanaticism.
You don't need any further ar because tough monsters (act bosses, Übers) will be killed with smite (always hits, bypasses blocking) plus crushing blow equipment. 1 point in smite and Goreriders are enough for act bosses while the Übers need perhaps 50% crushing blow, e.g. from Stormlash or Guillaumes on top of Gores.
A crushing blow deals a certain fraction of the monster's current life, no matter how much life it has. the more life a monster has, the better CB is.
A deadly strike deals double damage, but it won't turn into quadruple damage if you already got x2 damage from e.g. critical strike or barb weapon mastery.
Open wounds deals damage over a certain time. It depends on the character level.
See the strategy compendium for further detail about OW, CB and CS, the link is in my sig.
hm can you tell me y hoz is better than exile? for smite damage? and i was goin for nofsetu coil for IAS can you tell me y tgod is better too?
ill be usin ebotd so i think thats enough leech no need for dual...i think ill go with either resist or another raven for AR
Important Part Wats Stormlash or Guillaumes ^!^
and everyone favors Highlords huh my guy is gonna be a rusher...and uber killer so i think i might go meta for resist and defense and ar or The Mahim-Oak Curio looks pretty good with the $ increase AR defense and resist but ill have to build my guy with the gear first to see wat he lacks than ill decide on the amy
azngeekguy
13-03-2006, 00:58
btw..the whole calculation on the CB DS and OW is too complicated...ill just take it as the more percent you have the better it is =D
Evrae Altana
13-03-2006, 01:03
Important Part Wats Stormlash or Guillaumes ^!^Guillaume's Face (Orphan's Call, set Winged Helm)
Defense: 217 (Base Defense: 85-98)
Required Level: 34
Required Strength: 115
Durability: 40
+120% Enhanced Defense
+30% Faster Hit Recovery
15% Deadly Strike
35% Chance of Crushing Blow
+15 To Strength
Stormlash (unique Scourge)
One-Hand Damage: (10-12) To (272-320) (141-166 Avg)
Required Level: 82
Required Strength: 125
Required Dexterity: 77
Durability: 65
Base Weapon Speed: [-10]
+240-300% Enhanced Damage (varies)
+50% Damage To Undead
Adds 1-473 Lightning Damage
+30% Increased Attack Speed
+33% Chance of Crushing Blow
20% Chance To Cast Level 18 Tornado On Striking
15% Chance To Cast Level 10 Static Field On Striking
+3-9 Lightning Absorb (varies)
Attacker Takes Lightning Damage of 30
(Only Spawns In Patch 1.10 or later)
azngeekguy
13-03-2006, 01:16
thanks :) and guillimes face..wow good and cheap...wat a nice combo =D
krischan
13-03-2006, 12:31
hm can you tell me y hoz is better than exile? for smite damage? and i was goin for nofsetu coil for IAS can you tell me y tgod is better too?
ill be usin ebotd so i think thats enough leech no need for dual...i think ill go with either resist or another raven for AR
Important Part Wats Stormlash or Guillaumes ^!^
and everyone favors Highlords huh my guy is gonna be a rusher...and uber killer so i think i might go meta for resist and defense and ar or The Mahim-Oak Curio looks pretty good with the $ increase AR defense and resist but ill have to build my guy with the gear first to see wat he lacks than ill decide on the amy
IMO Exile is too expensive to justify exchanging a Hoz by it, at least in Europe where HRs cost 4 Ist instead of 2 Um, like in US East :smiley:. In addition, eth elite shields with decent res cost a fortune. A Hoz adds 50% res and you can still add an Um rune or pdiamond for an extra 22 or 19%. BTW, if you have Exile, don't use Dracul's, but e.g. LoH.
The %ed of smite is not really important for the Übers. The point of using it is that it always hits and bypasses blocking, so each time you hit, you will have a chance to deal a crushing blow. Damage still is of some importance because you only leech/lifetap from regular damage, not from CB, although you will leech more than enough from a decent elite weapon with just 1 point spent on smite.
If Exile is an option for you, you can most probably afford a Grief phaseblade which will deal more damage than BotD in any one-hander. You don't need any further IAS for max speed zeal and if it has 31%IAS, that's even the case if fanaticism is switched off. A little excess IAS might be useful if you want to do Baal minion runs, because Baal decreps you in the throne room. That's not necessary for your character. Anyway, Andy's and HL Wrath will add another 40%, so with fanaticism, we will have about 65-70% excess IAS with an average Grief PB.
Stormlash adds CB which might enable you to exchange Guillaume's for Kira's which will be a big help regarding resistances.
With Dracul's you don't need really much leech because you will have lifetap after about 3-4 zeal rounds and you will survive until then with max resists and (if you switch off run mode in dangerous fights !) 75% blocking. Versus übers, use a lifetap wand before starting to fight, just in case you have an unlucky streak with respect to triggering lifetap from the gloves.
T-Gods gives you lightning absorb which will make you immune to lightning damage from gloams and souls if you have max resists. It's not needed in Tristram and in PvP, however. There are already enough IAS sources (see above).
The point of HL Wrath is its IAS bonus and the high chance to deal deadly strike. A zealot has an easy time to overstack resistances, so you don't need Metalgrid or Mara's. CoH and a Pdiamond HoZ alone will turn your -70% base res into 64%, for example.
If you need more resists, add allres GCs. A zealot doesn't need skillers.
Of course, it depends on the complete setup, so here is the one of my zealot:
Andy's Visage
Grief PB
Enigma (I love to teleport to Baal's throne room and it makes organ hunts much easier as well - all solo, of course)
Hoz+PDiamond
Dracul's
T-God's
Goreriders
Weapon/shield switch: Wizspike+Spirit for teleporting
HL Wrath
Raven
Dual leech ring
Enough res charms for max res.
For organ hunts and Tristram, I make the following changes:
Guillaume's+Um
Enigma (organ hunt), else Duriel's Shell+Um (not the best choice, but it does its job)
Stormshield (DR !!)
String of Ears (DR - I guess Verdungo's would work as well, but I like the extra leech)
Weapon/shield switch: Wizspike+Spirit (organ hunt) else lifetap wand+HoZ (Tristram)
kingdryland
13-03-2006, 12:55
btw..the whole calculation on the CB DS and OW is too complicated...ill just take it as the more percent you have the better it is =D
The calculation is not that hard actually. If you are dealing 2k average pure physical damage and have 50% chance for a deadly from gear then you actually deal an average of 3k in the long run.With 100% ds you deal 4k in the long run, since it means that you consistenly deal double damage. As for crushing blow,fast attacks like zeal,smite,fury,fend etc don't need an excessive amount of it. An amount of 50% is more than enough for any pvm ocassion.
Coa is a dueling helm,if you are not going to duel get a guillaume's face,it is the green winged helm from the orphan set. Don't be fooled by its low price, it is a true gem.
azngeekguy
14-03-2006, 08:12
hmm thanks for all that info krischan...but we will have to see how rich i can get first...gonna be a while specially with zealer....hard time to rush for forge and kinddryland yea i guess its pretty easy logically...but than with the hero level and everythin in the chart...it just threw me off cuz there was no labels
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