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Liriel
10-03-2006, 21:08
Shako vs. CoA vs. Guillames Face

Nat Armor (3*5/5 psn fasets) vs. Bramble vs. Eni Archon

Gores vs. Shadow Dancers

Highlord vs. Mara

What is better?

I have: Shako (Um'ed), Nat Armor (3*5/5 psn fasets), Eni Archon, Gores, Highlord.

Should i buy Bramble/Mara/Coa/Shadow Dancers, or i can use this?

HappyAssassin
11-03-2006, 06:01
Okay, there are two routes you could go here. The first if CoA plus Enigma plus Shadow Dancers, the second is Shako or godly circlet plus gores plus Bramble. Nats armor is only good vs other ww sins in my opinion. If you use nigma, you have the str for CoA and dancers without giving up too much vita. If you build for CoA without the nigma you will lose a LOT of possible life.

As for ammy, I like metalgrid of maras or just use angelics if your a pure wwsin. If your using fury the chances to double damage from your claw and mastery together seem to make the deadly strike on Highlords a waste.

Also, keep in mind that a Nigma/Dancers/CoA assassin will have a different play style from Bramble, mostly because you tele and do less damage.

Hope this helps.

Liriel
11-03-2006, 13:49
Another question - what is better gear if i have 4-5k fire dmg Enchant and realy good BO (I have 2 cd-key sets and 2 computers)?

order
12-03-2006, 23:20
if u use enchant dont worry about angelics or metalgrid since u'll have plenty of ar as it is. since ur dmg will be high enough id go with the shadow dancer, enigma, coa build since u will have less need for added bramble dmg. just make sure u have enough fhr to meet a decent break point. for ammy and rings id try maras + ravenfrosts and save some pts into dex requirements.

Liriel
13-03-2006, 07:35
What about Jade Talon instead of Fury Claw?
By the way, it has 30% FHR and nice 45% res all.

How much dmg does Open Wounds?

SicHalo
13-03-2006, 18:59
What about Jade Talon instead of Fury Claw?
By the way, it has 30% FHR and nice 45% res all.

How much dmg does Open Wounds?


no u need a Fury because is a huge source of opewounds as well as deadly strike which is needed. also with fury it will give u enough ias to reach the last Whirlwind breakpoint.

However Jade talon is a good claw socketed with UM for fight like foh or fights u need res stack in.

Also openwound does dmg over a period of 8 seconds which is the equivelent of 200 frames for the highest openwounds a char over lvl 90 will dish out more dmg in openwounds. This type of dmg is also good as it is unresistable and can not be reduced.

here is a table to calculate openwounds dmg.

Clvl=1-15: 25*(9*Clvl+31)/256
Clvl=16-30: 25*(18*Clvl-104)/256
Clvl=31-45: 25*(27*Clvl-374)/256
Clvl=46-60: 25*(36*Clvl-779)/256
Clvl=61-99: 25*(45*Clvl-1319)/256

at lvl 90+ u can do upto 2133.6+ dmg over 8 seconds which is huge pvp dmg.

Liriel
13-03-2006, 20:05
no u need a Fury because is a huge source of opewounds as well as deadly strike which is needed. also with fury it will give u enough ias to reach the last Whirlwind breakpoint.

However Jade talon is a good claw socketed with UM for fight like foh or fights u need res stack in.

Also openwound does dmg over a period of 8 seconds which is the equivelent of 200 frames for the highest openwounds a char over lvl 90 will dish out more dmg in openwounds. This type of dmg is also good as it is unresistable and can not be reduced.

here is a table to calculate openwounds dmg.

Clvl=1-15: 25*(9*Clvl+31)/256
Clvl=16-30: 25*(18*Clvl-104)/256
Clvl=31-45: 25*(27*Clvl-374)/256
Clvl=46-60: 25*(36*Clvl-779)/256
Clvl=61-99: 25*(45*Clvl-1319)/256

at lvl 90+ u can do upto 2133.6+ dmg over 8 seconds which is huge pvp dmg.
Dude, I have Enchant which gives 5k+ instant fire dmg. Are you sure, I realy need Open Wounds dmg? Doesn't Shael'd Jade Talon better for this build (I need good res without using Fade)?

order
14-03-2006, 04:01
im kinda curious as to ur build because most pure ww use fade. another claw option u can use would be bartucs with the fastest claw ias, skills, fhr, ect. and socket a um rune inside for ow (or maybe a res jewel in ur case since there is 25% on chaos). the ow will help out a bit with higher life opponents since venom only last .4sec and ow will provide some extra dmg when u arent using ww or df.

SicHalo
15-03-2006, 02:17
Dude, I have Enchant which gives 5k+ instant fire dmg. Are you sure, I realy need Open Wounds dmg? Doesn't Shael'd Jade Talon better for this build (I need good res without using Fade)?

u missed the point. Fire is something that can be resisted Openwounds cannot and this type of techniquie is important in long fights, especially against casters like Energy shield sorcs and bone necs, druids as Ow is unresistable and it bypasses the mana and goes straight to health.

And no fade?? This means u will not only loose res but damage reduction and curse length reduction

Also in hell venom as a goes throught the psn length penalty which infact doubles the psn length from .4 sec to .8 sec which effectively doubles ur venom out put dmg.

order
15-03-2006, 03:19
nice dude i never thought about the double duration in hell for add on to venom.