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mckfroig
02-03-2006, 20:43
Hi there! I'm planning to make an assassin and currently I don't really have too much gear for her but I was wondering which would be a better sin to go with for pvm: a pure lightning trapper or a talon/trapper? I read the guides and both seem quite nice but I get the feeling that the talon/trapper is more reliant on equipment. Also, I know this is a very subjective question, but is kill speed for these two characters very good or more of a waiting and running around type thing? I don't plan on having infinity or anything like that for a while!

Thank you very much for your time and responses!

-Mckfroig

ilkori
02-03-2006, 23:12
It all depends on how much of a challenge you want. Talon/Trap hybrids have a harder learning curve, but are more flexible in the end. Also, they don't need to be gear dependant. Having a trapping switch (dual trap claws or dual spirits) and a kicking switch (Black flail with shield of choice) is all you really need.

The place talon/trap excells is against bosses. The pure trapper will have trouble with these unless your merc has lots of CB to hold them down. On the other hand, the trapper should be slightly faster against general monsters.

mckfroig
05-03-2006, 20:49
Thanks for the advice! As I was planning to give my merc guillaumes face for his helmet, I think the crushing blow will be adequate (please correct me if I am wrong!)

So I think i'll make a trapper... but as for the equipment, I am wondering if nat's set will be a good choice (I have an assn torch as well). Or would a combo of magic items and uniques be better (please keep in mind I don't really have super amazing uniques... but I might be able to get some)? Please let me know if you have the time. Thanks again!

-Mckfroig

mckfroig
05-03-2006, 20:51
Thanks for the advice! As I was planning to give my merc guillaumes face for his helmet, I think the crushing blow will be adequate (please correct me if I am wrong!)

So I think i'll make a trapper... but as for the equipment, I am wondering if nat's set will be a good choice (I have an assn torch as well). Or would a combo of magic items and uniques be better (please keep in mind I don't really have super amazing uniques... but I might be able to get some)? Please let me know if you have the time. Thanks again!

-Mckfroig

mckfroig
05-03-2006, 20:51
Thanks for the advice! As I was planning to give my merc guillaumes face for his helmet, I think the crushing blow will be adequate (please correct me if I am wrong!)

So I think i'll make a trapper... but as for the equipment, I am wondering if nat's set will be a good choice (I have an assn torch as well). Or would a combo of magic items and uniques be better (please keep in mind I don't really have super amazing uniques... but I might be able to get some)? Please let me know if you have the time. Thanks again!

-Mckfroig

mckfroig
05-03-2006, 20:51
Thanks for the advice! As I was planning to give my merc guillaumes face for his helmet, I think the crushing blow will be adequate (please correct me if I am wrong!)

So I think i'll make a trapper... but as for the equipment, I am wondering if nat's set will be a good choice (I have an assn torch as well). Or would a combo of magic items and uniques be better (please keep in mind I don't really have super amazing uniques... but I might be able to get some)? Please let me know if you have the time. Thanks again!

-Mckfroig

mckfroig
05-03-2006, 22:06
Wow, I really did a number on that posting. Sorry about that, I think I lagged or something..

-Mckfroig

windwingwind
05-03-2006, 22:38
I'm not experienced in assa but I just made my first one, who's a talon/trapper hybrid. All I want to say is she rocks~ she's fun and kill fast :laugh: And the gear was cheap too.

ilkori
05-03-2006, 23:01
Nat's set is pretty horrible for anything but a Phoenix Striker. It doesn't have the +skills to be worth it for you. The entire set has +3 Trap skills, and you can get that by using only one +3 trapping claw. Pretty sad, huh?

Your biggest goal is +skills. Second is getting resists to 50+ in Hell. Finally, get your trap laying speed up if you use Fire Blast (which I would definitely recommend on a pure trapper).

The merc should work for CB. A Holy Freeze merc with Guillaume's and something that adds slow would work awesome.