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DeMarki
21-02-2006, 17:48
I found a Lycander's Aim in Act3 Nightmare and I'm pretty sure it one of the best PvM bows in the game. I was just wondering if there are better bows than this one cause if not, I would like to personalize it and perhaps even upgrade it if I can find a Lum rune later on.

StealthBlade
21-02-2006, 17:54
Hey congratulations on finding a lycander's aim. I'm trying to find one myself, because my bow sucks... but anyways, lycanders aim, is a pretty good bow. It does more damgage than my bow, and I am towards the end of act 2 Hell. So it should be able to carry to through most of hell. However, many rares can spawn with better mods and the elite bow are all better than it in terms of damage and other stats.

Dadou
21-02-2006, 17:55
What realm are you playing on ? I have a spare one ;o)

AnimeCraze
21-02-2006, 18:09
It's not bad, but I like WWS better. Also, Lycander's Aim is nothing compared to the high end bows, like Windforce and Faith.

Leohappy
21-02-2006, 18:48
Lycanders is great when you're leveling thru nightmare diff, in hell it's only useful if you do 1 player games, otherwise some monsters will regen hp faster than you can damage them.

windwingwind
21-02-2006, 18:53
Nope, Lycander's Aim is far from "the best". Nonetheless it's a good bow I like :smiley: .

Read this thread if you are willing to dive into numbers:
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=145812

Omikron8
21-02-2006, 19:55
I found a Lycander's Aim in Act3 Nightmare and I'm pretty sure it one of the best PvM bows in the game. I was just wondering if there are better bows than this one cause if not, I would like to personalize it and perhaps even upgrade it if I can find a Lum rune later on.

change the word "best" to "worst" or "most craptacular"

AnimeCraze
21-02-2006, 21:18
Looking at his threads eariler and in the other forum, this is probably one of the best bows he has found so far. So, don't start saying stuff like that. Not everyone can afford a faith you know.

Anyways, if that bow is not cutting it in hell, I would suggest a harmony. It's cheaper than upping the bow.

Rabbitz
21-02-2006, 21:46
how is harmony going to be cheaper that lum...?

Veilside
21-02-2006, 21:48
how is harmony going to be cheaper that lum...?

because you need a pul and a lum to upgrade a weapon to elite. :prop:

YogiRat
21-02-2006, 21:55
Until the new rune words Lycs was considered very good bow, particularly for frostmaidens. It's still an endgame bow in the right hands.

crunkinator
23-02-2006, 03:13
wf faith botd bow ect...they all beat lycanders pvm & pvp, but i do respect the find, and the bow looks cool :-). but don't count on help from it in higher lvls of hell

Omikron8
23-02-2006, 03:30
but i will admit that an upgraded lyc aim would make a nice frostmaiden bow

MalVeauX
23-02-2006, 05:57
Up'ed Shaeled Lyc Aim is a great bow. There's no denying that. That stats for a non-runeword like this, are too good. No one throws away their Jalas or Arreats or HoZ, because frankly, no Runeword beats them. Lyc Aim was like this in overall "BOW" until they made Faith. Faith is just a retarded conception of the Dev team on B.net. And windforce is only awesome due to damage--it's still a slow bow with huge requirements. Lyc Aim has the mods, it just lacks that "max" damage that people tend to only look at when determining what's good. Speed and average damage are far more important. Faith simply is out of the ball park. But Lyc Aim is still a damn fine bow. Up it and use it!

The only things to even come close to it, are the insanely expensive and insanely duped-to-make runewords. In my opinion; they don't compare because it's not realistic to think someone fresh to the ladder is going to be sporting WindForce of Faith. Leave it to the botters and dupers to rig the whole ladder in a few minutes.

Anyhow, Up'ed Shaled Lyc Aim on a Zon built for Speed can go through hell. It won't be an easy trek, nor a fast one, but she can do it better than most melee characters would. Just use a merc and valk and all will be well.

Kijya
23-02-2006, 09:42
Anyone should be able to get a windforce trading a decent forge drop if you ask me.

But Lysanders is still a good bow :smiley: and btw try a trechery runeword armor, a lem shouldn't take to many pgems to buy :wink3: Beats most other low armors if you ask me.

CupOfTea
23-02-2006, 10:16
And windforce is only awesome due to damage--it's still a slow bow with huge requirements. Lyc Aim has the mods, it just lacks that "max" damage that people tend to only look at when determining what's good. Speed and average damage are far more important

Well lycander and windforce has same speed. Windforce has much better average damage too, I consider Lyc bow as Nightmare difficulty bow, and its good in there. If you up it, you can try do some kill in hell first acts, but not in a5 of course hehehe

DeMarki
23-02-2006, 10:31
My computer broke down yesterday and I bought a new HD.
Bye bye Lycander's Aim! Again lvl1 Blood Moor, I think I'm gonna puke...

AnimeCraze
23-02-2006, 10:52
I thought you play on Europe realm......, not SP.
Well lycander and windforce has same speed. Windforce has much better average damage too, I consider Lyc bow as Nightmare difficulty bow, and its good in there. If you up it, you can try do some kill in hell first acts, but not in a5 of course heheheI guess that an upped Lycan is viable in hell act 5 just as much a harmony mat is, and a harmony mat is rather viable.

rows
23-02-2006, 13:20
My computer broke down yesterday and I bought a new HD.
Bye bye Lycander's Aim! Again lvl1 Blood Moor, I think I'm gonna puke...

Hi

Why not move to B-net then it doesn't matter if Your HD crashes or not, Your chars will be saved anyway.

Also if You play on Europe I can provide You with some stuff to get You going


rows

MalVeauX
23-02-2006, 19:14
My computer broke down yesterday and I bought a new HD.
Bye bye Lycander's Aim! Again lvl1 Blood Moor, I think I'm gonna puke...

You should still have your LcyAim on your characters regardless if your PC crashed. Unless you're playing single player or something, or open.

If you're on USeast though, ladder, give me a PM sometime. Got an extra Aim if you would like it.

Cheers!

TheHeretic
24-02-2006, 06:14
Ok I play single but I have a question. How do you up the bow? Not sure what folks are saying about upping a bow or most things in that matter. Can anyone give me a decent chance on how to do this.


TheHeretic

Evrae Altana
24-02-2006, 07:18
Here's how to upgrade Lycander's.
1 Lum Rune + 1 Pul Rune + 1 Perfect Emerald + Exceptional Unique Weapon = Elite Version of Weapon (Ladder Only)
This formula changes the base item type from the exceptional to elite version. For example a Cleaver is turned into a Small Crescent. This does NOT convert the item to the Elite Unique version of the Exceptional Unique Item. Unique item bonuses remain the same; only the item it's based on is upgraded. This can be used to upgrade Ethereal Items also. They will continue to be Ethereal after they are upgraded. You cannot do this formula unless you are using a Ladder Character. Also if the item is socketed, then jewels or runes and their mods will also remain.

skilledlord
24-02-2006, 08:36
I don't think you can up uniques on single player.

Evrae Altana
24-02-2006, 09:05
All the Ladder-only cube recipes are available to SP players as well.

StealthBlade
25-02-2006, 21:51
Evrae Atlanta, are you sure? If this is true, I'm going to be a very happy person! i just found a pul a couple of days ago.

aman
25-02-2006, 21:52
All the cube receipies work on SP just like on ladder

StealthBlade
25-02-2006, 21:58
Ok thanks. Then does this apply to runewords too, or just cube recipies? For example, would I be able to make Duress in SP?

aman
25-02-2006, 22:05
Check here http://forums.diabloii.net/showpost.php?p=4032508&postcount=560

This is a 1.11 summery but answers your runeword question :smiley:

StealthBlade
25-02-2006, 22:13
Ok, thanks a lot. I am especially happy that i can now make duress and up the rest of my exceptional equip. :)

Dacar92
26-02-2006, 00:55
Ok, thanks a lot. I am especially happy that i can now make duress and up the rest of my exceptional equip. :)


I don't think you can make Duress on SP. Check the single player forum here to be sure. They support the runeword mod there as well. That is a mod that allows all ladder/realms only runewords on SP.