Extra Gear in BvC's Stash

[swiftrunner]

Assuming your primary gear is:

40/15 Arreat's
Enigma
Dracul's
Arachnid's
Rare boots with frw/fhr/high resists
Highlord's
2 fc rings with high mana
Grief + beast
Doom + doom


.....the extra gear you'd have:

'Hel' widowmaker
2 'um' wizardspikes
6 socks BA with cold res/ ias jewels + 1 um
Lifetap wand
demonlimb
'Berber' CoA
Kira's
Fortitude/Duress
Trang's
Death's hand
Verdungo's
OW belt
Thundergod's
Snowclash
Goreriders
Hotspurs
Angelic's ammy + 2 rings
Nokozan
Dwarf star
2 wisps
2 ravens
2 (fc) rings with 50%+ cold resist
2 (fc) rings with 50%+ lite resist

Perhaps there's some more. It would be ideal to have all of them in your stash but it's just impossible. Out of all these, which would you rather keep/ditch and why?

[mainaman]

I would get rid of these:
2 'um' wizardspikes
6 socks BA with cold res/ ias jewels + 1 um
Fortitude/Duress -- keep one of them
Trang's
Death's hand
Snowclash
Nokozan
Dwarf star
2 (fc) rings with 50%+ cold resist
2 (fc) rings with 50%+ lite resist


If you duel right you dont need any sorb
except tgod wisps ,ravens ofcourse

[Ce Olba]

Assuming your primary gear is:

40/15 Arreat's
Enigma
Dracul's
Arachnid's
Rare boots with frw/fhr/high resists
Highlord's
2 fc rings with high mana
Grief + beast
Doom + doom


.....the extra gear you'd have:

'Hel' widowmaker
2 'um' wizardspikes
6 socks BA with cold res/ ias jewels + 1 um
Lifetap wand
demonlimb
'Berber' CoA
Kira's
Fortitude/Duress
Trang's
Death's hand
Verdungo's
OW belt
Thundergod's
Snowclash
Goreriders
Hotspurs
Angelic's ammy + 2 rings
Nokozan
Dwarf star
2 wisps
2 ravens
2 (fc) rings with 50%+ cold resist
2 (fc) rings with 50%+ lite resist

Perhaps there's some more. It would be ideal to have all of them in your stash but it's just impossible. Out of all these, which would you rather keep/ditch and why?


'Hel' widowmaker
Lifetap wand
demonlimb
'Berber' CoA
Kira's
Duress
OW belt
Goreriders
Hotspurs
Angelic's ammy + 2 rings
2 ravens
2 (fc) rings with 50%+ cold resist
2 (fc) rings with 50%+ lite resist

This is what I would keep.

[RetroStar]

Keep a treachery if you want to use it in pubs. Increases DR + Resist.

Trangs if you got space but not required

Eld'd Whitsan if you feel like dueling other babas but this is just for fun.

It really depends on who you duel and your strats.

[Gotcha]

I would maybe add 2 carrion rings for the poison stacking which helps in some cases a lot. Just a thought.

[mainaman]

I would maybe add 2 carrion rings for the poison stacking which helps in some cases a lot. Just a thought.

he might aswell drink 2 antidote pots and he'll stack enough to last one duel

[Gotcha]

he might aswell drink 2 antidote pots and he'll stack enough to last one duel

Gee, I always tried that against nova necs using -75 PR and the pots never seemed to work but I guess that is better ten carrying 2 rings. I will have to get my nova nec back together and test the pot drinking out again

[Dennis_KoreanGuy]

I hate switching gear too much, so I just made a CoA + Gores his main.

Doom / Dungoes / Basic triple Sorb gear / WC prebuff was all I found neccessary. No Forts or anything.

[RetroStar]

I hate switching gear too much, so I just made a CoA + Gores his main.

Doom / Dungoes / Basic triple Sorb gear / WC prebuff was all I found neccessary. No Forts or anything.

I never found fort useful as well. Except for hammerdin/wind druids but enigma is sufficient for me.

[luis19]

luis uses in stash:

arreats
hel widow
wisp
gores
trangs
angelics
2xfcr rings
deomon limb
treachery
fort
massive stack ring (for vs t/v or w/e)
ow belt with stre/life
tgods
dungos (want p strings of ears instead)

[swiftrunner]

Thx for all the replies.

@ Luis
1. Can you explain why you think strings is better than dungos?
2. You don't seem to have any items that encounter poison damage. How do you handle plaguezon and poison nec?
3. You don't stack cold resists. How do you handle es cold sorcs?
4. And what's w/e?

[Ce Olba]

I know i'm not Luis, but i think i can answer some of the questions.

2. You don't seem to have any items that encounter poison damage. How do you handle plaguezon and poison nec?

Not needed, there barely are any poison characters, and they are easy anyways, antidotes>poison.

3. You don't stack cold resists. How do you handle es cold sorcs?

Maybe he didn't mention some 60 cold res rings? Or then he just uses dual ravens.

4. And what's w/e?

As far as I know, w/e means "whatever".

[swiftrunner]

As far as I know, w/e means "whatever".

Duh. I thought it was a new build that I didn't know about lol.

I still want to know why he chose strings over dungos, though.

[De4dEyE]

Most likey for druids, since you just need the DR + the LL on it gives you some HP back when you kill the wolves.

[luis19]

strings for LL vs druids, but im too lazy to switch to it.

i only use ravens vs cold sorcs seeing how they still die using max dr/block/bugged mana on east. stacking would make it far too easy.

psn chars are a joke. just put on kiras if u have to, shouldnt be a problem.

[Rauth]

strings for LL vs druids, but im too lazy to switch to it.

i only use ravens vs cold sorcs seeing how they still die using max dr/block/bugged mana on east. stacking would make it far too easy.

psn chars are a joke. just put on kiras if u have to, shouldnt be a problem.

haha. I wish my es blizzer had all that.Im lucky to get 1400/2500 with max block and no dr.

How much do you leech from a single wolf (given say, 20% ll)do you think? I dont think you get the full damage unless the wolf had that much hp.

[De4dEyE]

20 LL is nothing, before I got my ebotd muled in I had dracs [10%] and string [8%] and I was leeching almost nothing back. :S I forget, but I think I leeched around.. 200+ at the very least with a Ebotdz + string + dracs for a full pass [hitting/killing the wolves/druid/oak]

[Rauth]

20 LL is nothing, before I got my ebotd muled in I had dracs [10%] and string [8%] and I was leeching almost nothing back. :S I forget, but I think I leeched around.. 200+ at the very least with a Ebotdz + string + dracs for a full pass [hitting/killing the wolves/druid/oak]

yeah, but was this before or after torch? Wolves have a good chunk more life now, and that determines how much potential leech you can get. I don't see it making a Huge difference, but it might be worth using dracs and string against windies that tele away 5 screens to recast wolves.

[De4dEyE]

After torch. It keeps you alive for quite a while if you're careful. Long random WW's can catch the druid in its path and net you damage + life. A lot of the time I run up to a druid and if the wolves come at me, I WW away, killing the wolves and avoiding tornados. :o

[luis19]

also there is life on kill on both grief and enigma. u can put mass lifeleach on and widowmaker for easy leech.

my max block ss bliz that was pretty decked out only hit 1.8k life/ 2k mana, prolly hit more with 5 more lvls, also svs gear was like 2k life/2.5k mana

now bmana bliz can hit like
2.5klife/3-5kmana.
some ppl use 95% es bliz sorcs for team/bm dueling (using 9 es staff on switch and bo form someone else).
these are usually 1.5k life-2k life with 5k mana with low bo and 8k mana with barb bo.

[Rauth]

also there is life on kill on both grief and enigma. u can put mass lifeleach on and widowmaker for easy leech.

my max block ss bliz that was pretty decked out only hit 1.8k life/ 2k mana, prolly hit more with 5 more lvls, also svs gear was like 2k life/2.5k mana

now bmana bliz can hit like
2.5klife/3-5kmana.
some ppl use 95% es bliz sorcs for team/bm dueling (using 9 es staff on switch and bo form someone else).
these are usually 1.5k life-2k life with 5k mana with low bo and 8k mana with barb bo.

Yeah, 95es sorc with barb bo = gg, stupidly so with bmana crap. Unless you suck, or get stacked, you basically can't lose.

what did you use for svs? I just use one gear setup for everyone cause im lazy. I didn't add str for ss, I just use uppd visceraunt. Blocks everything I need it to, and saves me some str, although obviously I can't use spirit that way. I've just never found it neccessary to use spirit against anybody, since the only time i lose consistantly is when they are stacking res, which means I'm screwed either way.

[the boss]

dude dude,...use the 6 soc BA and make silence so you can have it on off hand, use fury if you want open wound kill, the rest I'd keep for gear, just don't keep that 6 soc BA with cold or w/e jewel in it and one um rune..., waste

[luis19]

sadly, those mass bmana sorcs are no threat to my barb in team duels. they are really just distractions and do ok dmg (after 1 piece sorb and stack + bo/oak u can take alot of hits if they can hit u)
trapper/leap keeps bmana sorcs from being a huge factor in team duels.

considering 1 of the best 4on4 teams is necr/druid/barb/trap, leap + bm means the druid alone can get the kill or the barb or the necro (yes if u cant move even bs will killu eventually).

rarely are they a problem for a barb either, a good one. 1on1 they really dont have a chance vs me, and in teams i can just hit and run or aviod them and leap to let someone else kill. yes they are *** but very beatable, traps+ amped nado is powerful with leap.

also a necro with the proper gear can outtank a bmana bliz sorc (stack+snowclash).

bmana sorcs can be effective but trappers alone make it hard to use them and if u add leap they are almost pointless.

[blobswannabe]

sadly, those mass bmana sorcs are no threat to my barb in team duels. they are really just distractions and do ok dmg (after 1 piece sorb and stack + bo/oak u can take alot of hits if they can hit u)
trapper/leap keeps bmana sorcs from being a huge factor in team duels.

considering 1 of the best 4on4 teams is necr/druid/barb/trap, leap + bm means the druid alone can get the kill or the barb or the necro (yes if u cant move even bs will killu eventually).

rarely are they a problem for a barb either, a good one. 1on1 they really dont have a chance vs me, and in teams i can just hit and run or aviod them and leap to let someone else kill. yes they are *** but very beatable, traps+ amped nado is powerful with leap.

also a necro with the proper gear can outtank a bmana bliz sorc (stack+snowclash).

bmana sorcs can be effective but trappers alone make it hard to use them and if u add leap they are almost pointless.

simply put mb > sorcs.