What should my frenzy do with mana burner

[zeskelnec]

Hi, I built a minimally twinked frenzy (lvl 86) which with bit of luck collected the IK set.
So I BO with full set and switch to main killing weapons : Baranar traded and flesrender ( I gave up stonecrusher traded, much too slow, unless I put a shael in it).
RIngs are ravenfrost and a magic nice 6% ll /15 all resist
Ammu is mahik.
maxed frenzy, 12 Dswing, 10 taunt, maxed BO, 10 shout, 1 leap, 1 WW (lost point), 1 Bersek, rest in mace mastery.

IT sucks. I ran summoner, and got killed many times.
Mana burner > no frenzy, little Dswing dmg
I switched to full set, attack with bersek coz leap dmg and ww are doing min dmg.
I can't even escape with leap ( no mana). Bersek leaves me 0 def.
I drink until I look like a blue mushroom
WHat should I do ?

[Dadou]

What helm are you using besides IK ?
With IK helm, Skullder, 2x echoing weapons (+3 warcry) your BO should be better than with full IK set.
Do you have mana leech at all ? If not, get some. Frenzy is so cheap, you only need minimum mana leech to get your blue orb always full.
I.e. with my WW barb, when i fight mana burners, i switch to Conc. (2 mana cost) and with 4% mana leech it's a walk in the park. HUGE defense, attack can't be interrupted, and even with 0 mana, one hit and I conc. again.

You definitely need mana leech imo. drop Mahim Oak Curio, you could gamble a very good amu with mana leech on it.

[AnimeCraze]

BOing with dual echo gives 3 more than with IK maul. I assumed that the other 5 pieces stays on, since that's what I am doing with my IK barb now. Weapon switch, boom-boom-boom-boom, switch again. The BO sticks also doubles as my item finding sticks. By the way, BO sticks are shoppable, so try your luck against some vendors.

[the boss]

You definitely need mana leech imo. drop Mahim Oak Curio, you could gamble a very good amu with mana leech on it.

Crescent moon works well but its overpower mana leech from a helm though...if you have death runeword, then mana leech shouldnt be problem.
When mana burn, switch to doubleswing, it costs no mana at level 11(which boosts synergy for frenzy)

Horizon's tornado is a pretty nice looking scourge you could try

[zeskelnec]

I have two echoes, already tested on that frenzy set up. In most cases, I realized that IK full set (and all its final bonus), even without WW and just Bash was enough to do the job when the two maces could not go through. But 300 more Hp did not solve the issue.
According to your comments, may be the secret is to use CONC as an uninterrupted attack, and of course I should find a stormlash and maybe another ammu.

However, in terms of mana leech if 4% suffice (quoting Dadou) I should feel safe with the 10 % ml when wearing 5 IK items (helm, gloves, armor, boots, belt)..

[Dadou]

Conc mana cost is 2, and if you hit at 2k-3k (which should be a very low estimation), you leech in Hell 1/4 of 10%, which still represents 50-75 mana...

I sometimes try to leech enough and WW once in a while to hit the whole mob (freezing with IK), and either you have enough mana to WW back, or you get hurt and Conc again.

Other thing i've been trying recently : Warcry !
I either warcry to stun and WW, or let my merc do the killing while I go on wacry. With some blue pots you can hold on quite long.

[Omikron8]

get the bulk of the burners to target your merc

mana pots with their duration can still replenish you after a burn unlike full rejuvs which instantly fill you up and doesn't help because that full mana will be drained again quickly

[PhatTrumpet]

Howl.

Seriously, any time I encounter ghosts with my IK Barb (PI + mana burn = royal pain in the arse) the first thing I do is Howl away minions, then let my Merc engage the boss. Zerk boss to oblivion, then pick off minions as they straggle back.