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Zangetsu
09-02-2006, 08:21
Okay I made a ww barb for pvp. I'm wondering if max block is important for barb. He is meant for melee dueling. Does block work when barb is ww-ding?

Evrae Altana
09-02-2006, 08:23
Yes, you can block while you WW. Max block is crucial to a barb if you want to do melee duels.

Romper Stomper
10-02-2006, 08:10
Max block is crucial to a barb if you want to do barb vs barb duels, under no other circumstance is it required.

morotsjos
10-02-2006, 14:52
Yes, you can block while you WW. Max block is crucial to a barb if you want to do melee duels.
define "melee" duels.

kingdryland
11-02-2006, 02:53
I know only a few dual yielding barbs that can beat zealots.

Zangetsu
11-02-2006, 17:09
define "melee" duels.
I meant BvB.
Right now I'm trying to max block but I want to get a hold of a Barb torch and anni first so I can put more points into vit instead of dex. Also, I wanna know what should I socket my storn shield and arreats.

the boss
11-02-2006, 17:35
Hey is WW melee then?

mastermind
11-02-2006, 18:10
Yeah if u want to BvB then max block is essential and yes WW is a mele attack

morotsjos
11-02-2006, 20:32
I know only a few dual yielding barbs that can beat zealots.
guided guided guided, ww away. rinse and repeat. it's not hard...

kingdryland
12-02-2006, 04:26
Well in that case the zealot can go charge when you get bow.I mean WW vs Zeal,not all open.

morotsjos
12-02-2006, 07:13
Well in that case the zealot can go charge when you get bow.I mean WW vs Zeal,not all open.
then he charges into ww. unless you're dumb and allow him to catch you with bow up.

pure ww vs zeal: if he moves he will get hit no matter what. if you die to moving zealots you just whirl bad. if he remains stationary you should make clipping whirls at his sides, hitting him way more than he'll hit you. it sounds really simple because it is really simple. most people just dont have the patience to make clipping whirls, or they dont have enough experience estimating range.

TarnishedHope
12-02-2006, 10:12
I know only a few dual yielding barbs that can beat zealots.

Psh, I know LOTS of dual yield WWbarbs that can dominate zealots, including my own BvC.

My BvC doesn't even have Ber Ber'd CoA yet, and zealots rarely stand a chance against him. Even against smiter, he can wipe them out pretty easily (or even kil counts). It all comes down to good WW/exp.

I don't, at all, see the necessity of swaping to bow against zealots.

morotsjos
12-02-2006, 14:04
Psh, I know LOTS of dual yield WWbarbs that can dominate zealots, including my own BvC.

My BvC doesn't even have Ber Ber'd CoA yet, and zealots rarely stand a chance against him. Even against smiter, he can wipe them out pretty easily (or even kil counts). It all comes down to good WW/exp.

I don't, at all, see the necessity of swaping to bow against zealots.
if they have 100k def it will take the whole day if they're just shift-zealing. use widow to stress them.

TarnishedHope
13-02-2006, 04:50
:jig: If they do that, I usually just ignore them and duel someone else.

Don't like dueling those ppl... seem to me that they have too much time on their hands.

kingdryland
13-02-2006, 21:08
Guys it is a matter of technique. If a grief fanatic zealot gets you with charge while holding the bow or before whirl it is bye bye,both cases you are shieldless. And If the zealot won't shift+zeal vs ww then he is worthless ,and dead anyway.

morotsjos
13-02-2006, 21:30
Guys it is a matter of technique. If a grief fanatic zealot gets you with charge while holding the bow or before whirl it is bye bye,both cases you are shieldless. And If the zealot won't shift+zeal vs ww then he is worthless ,and dead anyway.
on the contrary the best zealers/smiters are the ones who actively use charge to close the gap all the time. shift-smiting out of range = dumb.

kingdryland
13-02-2006, 22:41
This one is bvc, the barb is not holding a shield therefore zeal will land a lot. I prefer smiting vs shields. Closing the distance with charge and charging against an active whirl are two different things.

morotsjos
14-02-2006, 00:46
This one is bvc, the barb is not holding a shield therefore zeal will land a lot. I prefer smiting vs shields. Closing the distance with charge and charging against an active whirl are two different things.
it's pretty hard to close the gap without getting hit. good palas however will desynch themselves into range while giving away a few free hits, since one bad whirl=death. still only seen one pally able to do that consistently. rest resort to tele/smite or die.