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JayChyl
08-02-2006, 21:46
Ok so. I've been playing my BvC for over 6 months now. Firstly I've had a pure vita bvc (lvl 95), which sucked ofc. After a few months I remade my barb which I have now at lvl 96. The worst thing is I didn't mind wearing Forti before I stated my barb. Now I have a

base str: 59
base dex: 46
Rest Vita.

All the BvC skills maxed. WW, Ax mastery, bo.

Lvl 14 base leap.
Lvl 3 Base Inc speed
lvl 5 base nat res
Rest into shout

Gear:
Grief ba 363/37, beast Ba 249/35 (will have to get 36+ then)
Arreats 37/15
Arach
2x semi-gosu fcr rings
highlords
Eni Dusk
Bitterspurs rare boots (30% frw, 13 dex, 46 cold res, 48 light res, 49 fire res)
Dracs 10/15
2x Doom on switchy.

Stash:
Forti Scarab 15ed, 29 res, 108 life on lvl 96.
Coa ber ber 31/23
widowmaker Hel
Demonlimb
Treachery
Trang Gloves
Kiras Orted
2x raven, angelics rings+amu
OW Belt 20 str 10% OW + add
Tgods
Lifetap Wand

Charms:
Anni 17/20/9
Baba Torch: 19/13
15x 20 lifers
4x max/life/ar Gc's
4x 3max/xx ar/5 fhr scs
2x life/mana charms
1x 16life/10 cold res


So. Can't wield Forti + coa Ber Ber, even when using tgods. (Including Beast str bonus ofc). Need 8 more strenght to wield this.

Too low dex to use widowmaker if i use Coa + 2x angelics + the boots 13dex. Ofc Arreats + angelics + boots = I can wear widow.

Next thing, cant wield widowmaker if i would like to use 2x angelics, coa ber ber and enigma. Sucks

Tho I'm pretty unsure about the leap. Shall my new build have it maxed? Normally with lvl 14 leap it ahieves the corners, but maybe lvl 20 leap would be even more viable because it would stun the guy which is off my screen, tele closer, leap again and then triangle dod him. I mastered the pro BvC skills and I've won vs the skilled mages/hammers/ v/t's / sorcies, windys, etc.

So overally I'd need to spend 20 more points in dex/str. And 6 more to leap if I wanted to get it maxed.

Suggestions, The gosuest BvC's in the universe?

Imbecile
08-02-2006, 21:58
Ok so. I've been playing my BvC for over 6 months now. Firstly I've had a pure vita bvc (lvl 95), which sucked ofc. After a few months I remade my barb which I have now at lvl 96. The worst thing is I didn't mind wearing Forti before I stated my barb. Now I have a

base str: 59
base dex: 46
Rest Vita.

All the BvC skills maxed. WW, Ax mastery, bo.

Lvl 14 base leap.
Lvl 3 Base Inc speed
lvl 5 base nat res
Rest into shout

Gear:
Grief ba 363/37, beast Ba 249/35 (will have to get 36+ then)
Arreats 37/15
Arach
2x semi-gosu fcr rings
highlords
Eni Dusk
Bitterspurs rare boots (30% frw, 13 dex, 46 cold res, 48 light res, 49 fire res)
Dracs 10/15
2x Doom on switchy.

Stash:
Forti Scarab 15ed, 29 res, 108 life on lvl 96.
Coa ber ber 31/23
widowmaker Hel
Demonlimb
Treachery
Trang Gloves
Kiras Orted
2x raven, angelics rings+amu
OW Belt 20 str 10% OW + add
Tgods
Lifetap Wand

Charms:
Anni 17/20/9
Baba Torch: 19/13
15x 20 lifers
4x max/life/ar Gc's
4x 3max/xx ar/5 fhr scs
2x life/mana charms
1x 16life/10 cold res


So. Can't wield Forti + coa Ber Ber, even when using tgods. (Including Beast str bonus ofc). Need 8 more strenght to wield this.

Too low dex to use widowmaker if i use Coa + 2x angelics + the boots 13dex. Ofc Arreats + angelics + boots = I can wear widow.

Next thing, cant wield widowmaker if i would like to use 2x angelics, coa ber ber and enigma. Sucks

Tho I'm pretty unsure about the leap. Shall my new build have it maxed? Normally with lvl 14 leap it ahieves the corners, but maybe lvl 20 leap would be even more viable because it would stun the guy which is off my screen, tele closer, leap again and then triangle dod him. I mastered the pro BvC skills and I've won vs the skilled mages/hammers/ v/t's / sorcies, windys, etc.

So overally I'd need to spend 20 more points in dex/str. And 6 more to leap if I wanted to get it maxed.

Suggestions, The gosuest BvC's in the universe?

Next thing, cant wield widowmaker if i would like to use 2x angelics, coa ber ber and enigma.

What kinda opponent would you use this setup against?

JayChyl
08-02-2006, 22:07
Next thing, cant wield widowmaker if i would like to use 2x angelics, coa ber ber and enigma.

What kinda opponent would you use this setup against?

Well I'd most likely like to wear Forti instead of Eni. That would be the setup vs V/t or smiter.

Imbecile
08-02-2006, 22:13
Well I'd most likely like to wear Forti instead of Eni. That would be the setup vs V/t or smiter.

I wouldn't dare to draw a bow that fires at 11 frames (assuming wearing angelics), against the most dangerous smiters. Then again angelics isn't needed versus T/V's since you should rather use hl + 2 x raven + chant, since they have sacrificied defense for higher foh or more smite dmg. V/T's can generally be rejected by wearing Forti + Fade + Tgods. You could use Arreats + Fade + BB, to use widow + full angelics + forti and still have 35% pdr, and high res.

JayChyl
08-02-2006, 22:30
I wouldn't dare to draw a bow that fires at 11 frames (assuming wearing angelics), against the most dangerous smiters. Then again angelics isn't needed versus T/V's since you should rather use hl + 2 x raven + chant, since they have sacrificied defense for higher foh or more smite dmg. V/T's can generally be rejected by wearing Forti + Fade + Tgods. You could use Arreats + Fade + BB, to use widow + full angelics + forti and still have 35% pdr, and high res.

Ye I was thinking the same. And since they flash you with holy freeze.. crappy.

Well BB... not a good idea imho.

Some V/t's use Exile as their shield which can give them even a 35k def +.
Tho they sacrifice the foh dmg then alil, but still, their foh dmg is semi-decent. Vs that type of char I could use Forti, tgods, 2x angelics, coa ber ber. Can't do it now but would be able after rebuild.

Vs Mages, arreats, forti, tgods, grief beast, 2x raven + highlords, widowmaker since they have really low def.

Vs T/v's As youve said, I'd rather use widow vs them. They got low def aswell, so just 2x ravens, tgods, highlords, forti and arreats + fade, means their smite dmg constantly sucks anyway.

Vs pure hammers, stack OW belt instead of tgods.

Vs smite/charge, grief/doom, 2x angelics, coa ber ber, eni (If I used forti id need like 36+ base str.), and Ow belt ofc.

Imbecile
08-02-2006, 22:55
Ye I was thinking the same. And since they flash you with holy freeze.. crappy.

Well BB... not a good idea imho.

Some V/t's use Exile as their shield which can give them even a 35k def +.
Tho they sacrifice the foh dmg then alil, but still, their foh dmg is semi-decent. Vs that type of char I could use Forti, tgods, 2x angelics, coa ber ber. Can't do it now but would be able after rebuild.

Vs Mages, arreats, forti, tgods, grief beast, 2x raven + highlords, widowmaker since they have really low def.

Vs T/v's As youve said, I'd rather use widow vs them. They got low def aswell, so just 2x ravens, tgods, highlords, forti and arreats + fade, means their smite dmg constantly sucks anyway.

Vs pure hammers, stack OW belt instead of tgods.

Vs smite/charge, grief/doom, 2x angelics, coa ber ber, eni (If I used forti id need like 36+ base str.), and Ow belt ofc.

Do you now a char named Terror-EpK? :tongue:

I am also thinking about remaking my barb since I am not satisfied with only 1 pt in nat res. (don't laugh)

So my idea so far would be to use Bramble Brogues (Goldwrap borrowed me these, where are you :cry:) to help me equip my stuff, so I can freely switch belt, using verdungo vs smiters and melee etc, and still be able to use widow when wearing 2 x ravens.

So using these to attain 138 str. So I can use forti + coa + verdungo, just like my current one.

JayChyl
08-02-2006, 23:04
Do you now a char named Terror-EpK? :tongue:

I am also thinking about remaking my barb since I am not satisfied with only 1 pt in nat res. (don't laugh)

So my idea so far would be to use Bramble Brogues (Goldwrap borrowed me these, where are you :cry:) to help me equip my stuff, so I can freely switch belt, using verdungo vs smiters and melee etc, and still be able to use widow when wearing 2 x ravens.

So using these to attain 138 str. So I can use forti + coa + verdungo, just like my current one.

Rofl. How ya know I'm Terror-Epk :P

Well. Lemme tell ya something. Coa ber ber, 2x ravens, forti, highlords, grief beast, tgods = gg t/v and/or v/t. But hell I need a rebuild to use that. Or just make lvl 98 to add 8 points more ><.

Imbecile
09-02-2006, 00:00
Rofl. How ya know I'm Terror-Epk :P

Well. Lemme tell ya something. Coa ber ber, 2x ravens, forti, highlords, grief beast, tgods = gg t/v and/or v/t. But hell I need a rebuild to use that. Or just make lvl 98 to add 8 points more ><.

GG lebel 98 :laugh: