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Full_Circle
07-02-2006, 03:06
Is a rune found by a bot a "Legit" Rune?
Feel free to comment below.
Valar-Wrath
07-02-2006, 03:13
No.
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Is an anni from a server popped from duped sojs legit? It all depends where you personally draw the line of legitness. I think most of you waste too much time caring how legit you are and not enough time just playing the damn game. OH MI GAWD HIS SCREEN HAS TOO MUCH LIGHT RADIUS BAN FROM FORUM PLZ!~!@# Grow up and worry about yourself.
.bot = roon from subway sandwich v. 6 = legit
"bot" = roon from tEh bO7t3R = not legit
iTAMZSESZFiNdERRZOr dIEzORORA!
yar~ this has been debated a few times but i'm guessing trebbycakes didn't want a debate, just a poll. That said, it is interesting how we cast botted runes/items as hacks/cheats but being the beneficiary of sitting on the right server as hundreds of duped sojs are being sold causes us to jump for joy when we receive a "legit" anni. It's a lot easier to accept that the anni is legit because it dropped in our game, all the while the sojs sold were most likely dupes from lord knows when. And unless you've been storing sojs you've legitly found since 1.04, there is no way to say anyone's anni hasn't been indirectly affected by non-legit/duped/botted sojs. In this case, a botted rune seems to be easier to tag as non-legit because it's the actual item being hacked/cheated whatever. It's after 5pm and I should go home.
*YaWnNZorR*
Is an anni from a server popped from duped sojs legit? It all depends where you personally draw the line of legitness. I think most of you waste too much time caring how legit you are and not enough time just playing the damn game. OH MI GAWD HIS SCREEN HAS TOO MUCH LIGHT RADIUS BAN FROM FORUM PLZ!~!@# Grow up and worry about yourself.
HACKER!!!!! OH MI GAWD bAn FROM FORUM PLZ!~!
terrymanning
07-02-2006, 04:05
Yes, but only if the bot can trade it too. :wink3:
Valar-Wrath
07-02-2006, 04:40
Is an anni from a server popped from duped sojs legit? It all depends where you personally draw the line of legitness. I think most of you waste too much time caring how legit you are and not enough time just playing the damn game. OH MI GAWD HIS SCREEN HAS TOO MUCH LIGHT RADIUS BAN FROM FORUM PLZ!~!@# Grow up and worry about yourself.
It's a poll...
Chill.
Out.
OH MI GAWD HIS SCREEN HAS TOO MUCH LIGHT RADIUS BAN FROM FORUM PLZ!~!@# Grow up and worry about yourself.
Ahh, you see the thing about that is, unlike you, we have no real lives, we sit around and compare how legit we are the way real people compare penis size, it is the only consolation many of us have for the fact that we cannot/have never pleased a 3 dimensional woman.
Now you are trying to deprive us of our fun the same way you whine about us persecuting the hackers, I hope you're happy...
Cheers, now I'm off to cry
-Tai
P.S. The rune isn't legit in my opinion, but answering that question is nowhere near as satisfying.
PhatTrumpet
07-02-2006, 05:15
After bringing up the anni issue in the other thread I realized it wasn't so simple. There's not a doubt in anyone's mind that Blizzard introduced the DClone quest to get rid of duped sojs while keeping our interest for another who knows how long. They had to have expected that people would continue to dupe SOJs in order to keep spawning DClones, so what is Blizzard essentially telling us? "We know that duping is a major part of D2 online, and we really can't do much to stop it, so just get used to it." Right from the mouths of the creators.
Anyway, a botted anything is not legit, but "legit" is a somewhat subjective term. I guess that's why there's a poll. :goofy:
Meh, if I really felt I needed such stuffs, I would be playing softcore.
MoUsE_WiZ
07-02-2006, 05:23
Are you implying that pindle drops runes for anyone ever? I refuse to accept that. I don't think I"ve even seen a Pul from him.
botters can rot for all i care. as can all them duped up scumbags.
The purpose of a game, is to play it YOURSELF... what's the point in letting the pc run all day long and get wealth for you ?
You come back home and say "Hey I found huge items !!..."... did you say "I found ?..."
Lamer cheaters, the PC plays better than you do.
If you want to make a bot for wealth, make one for stockmarket and get rich IRL, by a sunny island and stop spoiling our fun.
MoUsE_WiZ
07-02-2006, 12:44
The purpose of a game, is to play it YOURSELF... what's the point in letting the pc run all day long and get wealth for you ?
You come back home and say "Hey I found huge items !!..."... did you say "I found ?..."
Lamer cheaters, the PC plays better than you do.
If you want to make a bot for wealth, make one for stockmarket and get rich IRL, by a sunny island and stop spoiling our fun.
Botters, especially this season, do make decent money IRL. That's the problem.
That and they like dueling, and we all know everyone on open cheats =/
There's not a doubt in anyone's mind that Blizzard introduced the DClone quest to get rid of duped sojs while keeping our interest for another who knows how long.
Sorry - gonna have to sort of 'disagree' with this ...
How does this get rid of duped items ? It actively encourages people to dupe them, in order to trigger the event. It's a bit similar to bringing out a load of new (especially ladder only) runewords, stuffed full of very high level runes. It only encourages the botters and dupers, because without these (*** insert obscenely vulgar insult here ***), no normal legit ladder player would ever get the runes required.
If it was Blizzard's intention to eliminate duped sojs from bnet, then it backfired badly. Know what I mean ?
DelBoy
ps - to respond to the original question, I consider the rune itself to be legit (in that it isn't duped and won't disappear during the next rust storm), but the method of obtaining it is certainly not legit.
And there we must make a differene between legit and perm.
It won't disappear, there is no way to trace its criminal origin (yeah, criminal in DII), it was not duped...
But it involved use of a third party program which purpose it to go against the game policy, and we can assume that the player wouldn't have dropped the 10th of everything he owns if he had played by himself.
So it's perm, but it's NOT legit.
Should i extend this thought to every site from which you can buy items/runes ? In my utopic innoncent mind, i thought these were a team of friends who accumulate nice wealth together and sold it for pocket money. Are they all dupe or bot users ?
PhatTrumpet
07-02-2006, 15:29
How does this get rid of duped items ? It actively encourages people to dupe them, in order to trigger the event.
That's actually what I said the sentence after what you quoted...
Is an anni from a server popped from duped sojs legit? It all depends where you personally draw the line of legitness. I think most of you waste too much time caring how legit you are and not enough time just playing the damn game. OH MI GAWD HIS SCREEN HAS TOO MUCH LIGHT RADIUS BAN FROM FORUM PLZ!~!@# Grow up and worry about yourself.
Why should one take offense when people do not like illegit players?
Build a fire and get all the illegits near it and I will cast the first punk in!
This game would still be a great game and still played by many more people than it is now including myself if it were not for the illegit POS that ruin it!
That's actually what I said the sentence after what you quoted...
Having re-read your post, I realise that this is indeed the case - sorry :-)
DelBoy
Should i extend this thought to every site from which you can buy items/runes ? In my utopic innoncent mind, i thought these were a team of friends who accumulate nice wealth together and sold it for pocket money. Are they all dupe or bot users ?
In order to make a decent profit, splitting it over the number of people neccisary for the task of aquiring all the wealth won't help. Most likely these sites are run by two or three people, each with several cd-keys, a working dupe method and bots. I know of at least one duping method whic was sold for $10.000... it was in an article written by a woman nicknamed "Morgana" who was part of a group of hackers.. but the article was pulled down within a week of publishing by her again from dii.net.
So yeah, its all duping scum.
There always has been and always will be a working dupe... Thing is those ones that always have one dont advertise it so it can be stopped easily. "In most cases" these types of people also dont "show" thier abilitys by duping to the max for days and then selling things for weeks they do it more smartly thus minimally influencing the game.
Hell frankly I have conceeded the dupes.....they will always be here, Blizz cant and wont stop them all, but they can and also wont stop several other things they have full power to do and these things are much more damaging to the game like TPPK........
In S1 1.10 Hammers were killing for TPPK early, and were stopped so fast that my eyes widdened, my ears perked and a big ole fat smile nearly decapped myself as it really looked like Blizz was going to finally put an end to this bull****......then they didint do anything else.
The DC/UD thing to burn up SOJs is/was a good idea, it did/does burn up many of the duped SOJs but it does encourage duping also, but when they duped they risk being caught so it is sort of a ploy to draw them out also but I am not sure Blizz takes full advantage of this as I am sure thier manpower isnt focued onthis game...Diablo as it exists is simply "a carrot held in front of a donkey" to get people to stay as long as they can with minimal investment so when D3 hits they have big time word of mouth free advertising.
May the illegit burn!!!
"Hee Haw!!!"
*slaps hoof over mouth*
Dupes?...beyond caring....as long as they don't adjust the game to compensate for all the duped items it won't affect my play....
FattyMcGee
08-02-2006, 02:03
to respond to the original question, I consider the rune itself to be legit (in that it isn't duped and won't disappear during the next rust storm), but the method of obtaining it is certainly not legit.
^ i completely agree with waflob. The rune is legit, it dropped from a creature in a game, and was not duped or hacked in (i.e. "created" by a gamer). Same goes with the anni question. However, the method for obtaining it is not legit, as waflob says. I don't agree with botting/duping/hacking/etc, don't agree with mh even, but i think that the item would still be technically considered "legitimate", because it is an authentic game item. it's just not kosher :P
-f
MoUsE_WiZ
08-02-2006, 02:25
Trading for botted items encourages botters and contributes to the skewing of the economy that is caused by those botters.
PawnOfChaos
08-02-2006, 02:42
As has been said, in my mind, the rune is legit, the method of obtaining it is not.
Any item that dropped from a monster (not an item that could drop) is legit. Its like saying someone tppk'd and got an ear from it. Is that particular ear not legit? The ear is an ear, the method of obtaining the ear is what causes it to lose its value.
Unless Blizzard steps in a bans botters, trading for anything at all from someone you don't know brings with it a chance of the item being a dupe/found by a botter. Too many ethical questions, single player d2 for the win!
Or, in my case, just play WoW and enjoy a game that blizzard still takes an active interest in keeping legit.
Cleglaw_Himself
08-02-2006, 04:46
Or, in my case, just play WoW and enjoy a game that blizzard still takes an active interest in keeping legit.
WoW takes up too much life. You need a symbiotic twin to play it properly.
If, however, they used teleporting through waypoints as in D2 rather than flightpaths, well, that would be a start!
Socialism
08-02-2006, 07:46
Everyone knows bots don't exist. It's just one person playing on several computers at the same time using a special keyboard that brings together the keyboards of several computers so that each finger-digit is able to completely control a character.
Yeah.
Socialism
08-02-2006, 07:46
Everyone knows bots don't exist. It's just one person playing on several computers at the same time using a special keyboard that brings together the keyboards of several computers so that each finger-digit is able to completely control a character.
Yeah.
Everyone knows bots don't exist. It's just one person playing on several computers at the same time using a special keyboard that brings together the keyboards of several computers so that each finger-digit is able to completely control a character.
Yeah.
No, that one keyboard actually controls all the computers at once! That's why Pindle is so popular - His map is always the same! Keep the bank of monitors right nearby, so you can press Alt and look for gold lettering... you can pindle dozens of characters easily like this!
..... New method... oooh... I should try it! Anyone got a spare computer/cdkey they can lend me? :shocked:
Is a rune found by a bot a "Legit" Rune?
Feel free to comment below.
i knows your opinion, and i supports it.
wangboBW
23-07-2007, 05:49
I think people should only use stuff Charsi sells. This way, it's fair competition for everyone!
3 years old almost? come on guys...
Valar-Wrath
23-07-2007, 10:01
Talk about spam.
Full_Circle
24-07-2007, 01:05
You thought my thread was dead?!?
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
PawnOfChaos
24-07-2007, 10:18
For a second there I thought I had sat down at my computer and entered a time vortex that sent me back a year.
Yeah, I'm tired...
TheDarkSide
24-07-2007, 13:33
*yar !!!
I got a Lem tonight - Nm Hellforge - I r legit ...
:thumbsup:
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