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We started on time, but minus our trapsin. Nevertheless, the amazon and necro valiantly cleared the river of flame and chaos sanctuary. Pain-in-the-proverbial oblivion knights spammed their irritating iron maiden and, as usual, the mercs were just to stupid to notice. Had to revive the mercs several times, but in the end, we had broken 3 of the 5 seals, and were about to release the pack of flame breathing monsters, whose name I have momentarily forgotten, when our lady trapsin arrived to help out. Needless to say, from then on, it was quite a bit easier, having someone to carry us :-)
Can someone say "laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag" ? We were standing there, wondering if we were still alive. Diablo had actually disappeared. Finally, we decided to quit and re-join. Fortunately, there were no deaths due to the lag monster and we summarily disposed of the fat geezer with the bad hair-do. Best drop - Aldurs booties.
We got all religious and praised the light with Tyreal for a bit and then stepped through the devilishly red portal to hell act 5. Once again, the lag bit us and we quit and started a new game, hoping to get on another server. For some reason, the battle net gods found this offensive and I got a restricted realm !?!?! Way to go Blizzard - great anti-bot measure that one :thumbsup:
One disconnect/reconnect later (dynamic ips have their positive sides :-)) and we're off.
I think we were lucky with the roll, as we didn't encounter any gloam type thingies and no spear chucking moggies. We still grumbled about the poisonous quill rats, but this was only a half-hearted grumble :-)
Someone must have put some money in the meter at Blizzard, as we were 'relatively' lag free from then on. I think we broke the world record for finding the most +5 strength grand charms in one evening. It really did seem that way - every other GC was a +5 str.
A windhammer was dropped (can't remember where), which caused a lot of excitement, until we realised that we couldn't use the damn thing. We went through, getting the way points, completing the quests, killing the monsters etc without any really dangerous situations. There were some big fights, that left the floor looking a mess (I feel sorry for the cleaning lady), but nothing the intrepid trio couldn't handle.
As the necro is the only male in the party, I assumed that it would be me who would have the pleasure of warming up Anya, but this wasn't to be. One of the girlies did it !!! I've always wondered about that amazon :-)
Shortly after 22:00, we found the WP in the ancients way and decided to stop there. Next week, ancients and quite probably baal to finish.
They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and this is definitely the case here. Tikadea, having seem the pure elegance and power of a trapsin has already decided that that's what he wants to do next KTA. Speaking of which, who's up for the next one ? Maybe we should start thinking about what to play, as it will come around faster than you think.
Anyway, yesterday was a great session and lots of fun. Thanks to all those involved.
DelBoy
ps - please fill in any gaps and/or correct any errors
nice write down waflob... and i don't think you forgot any major parts or stuff.
that lag with diablo was reaaaaaaaaly bad... havent seen anything like it before i think. i was getting like 1 screen refresh every 3 or 4 seconds. i actualy tryed trowing java's... but the game simply didn't notice me clicking on that button... i didn't trew a thing.
i gave anya her kiss of life...or was it the potion that did the trick? i tried both... and one or the other has worked... so i simply assume i am a reaaaaly good kisser :afro:
only small event you forgot to mention was Q1 in act 5... you know the guy that gets larzuc to add a soccet.... (damn whats his name again?)
once we got close to him i shouted... "and now its some major LF time", and i ran off. when my fellow adventurers joined my side again 5 seconds later the entire group was nothing but dead bodies... yups.. i had my fun ... and that's what LF does with such massive groups :rolleyes:
about next time... the end is coming nearer now, and few real chalanges await us. i have good hope that we can survive all, and be victorious.
by the way... even before yesterday evening i more or less decided that i would like to play a trapper next session. but seeing eury blast her way true all she encountered was a huge plesure.
so yes.. i would like to play that caracter next round... but if need be i could change to something else. after all, and before anything else, i will play whatever the group needs, since i put the groups needs above my own.
maybe its a good thing to start recruiting a little, since as far as i am concerned i would LOVE to have some more people join in the fun. we are playing every monday evening, from 1930 onwards (thats paris/amsterdam time) and everyone looking for a fun untwinked experiance is more than welcome.
regards
Tika
p.s. that about the +5 str GC's realy was true... i found 2 i think, and saw at least another 2 being dropped in town... reaaaaaaaly weird.
eurymone
31-01-2006, 23:11
How sweet to play good old Dia in KTA again ^^ We'll probably finish next monday, the only thing I fear are those nasty bugged vipers around nihlathak, they wiped half of KTA once.
Yea, I recommend you a trapper with no doubts, you can easily play untwinked, stay safe and mf at the same time :cool: I'd like to play a build I've never tried before, a conc/zerk barb, or conviction pally?
I'd like to play a build I've never tried before, a conc/zerk barb, or conviction pally?
I started this KTA with an avenger, but it got killed in NM by the council (oops).
Bit of a struggle until lvl 30, but then that conviction aura just rocks !!! Extremely party friendly, melee and casters benefiting from it.
2 builds that I'm interested in are poison jav amazon with lite as backup, or enchantress. Would prefer the amazon, as they get valks, which we could use.
Enchantress with a bow sounds interesting. No decisions yet, just thinking about it.
DelBoy
ps - sorry I forgot about the LF attack on Shenk (sp ?). Was sort of over before it began. Admit it, you shouted "YEEEE HAAW !!" before the attack, didn't you ?
okay okay... i admid... i did a little "battle cry" before i ran of to create some major lag that somehow killed the entire pack around shenk, as well as shenk himselve. :grin:
in my opinion there are 2 viable builds for a conviction pala. 1 being avenger, the other being FoH. both have their pro's and cons.
the avenger relies on his weapon for doing dmg, this means he needs a good weapon to do any significant dmg later on in the game. this means that playing 1 untwinked aint a realy good idea as i think of it. of cource it can be done... but finding that weapon ... you know what i mean.
immunitys however are never a problem with this caracter, even if conviction can't break the immunity there are still several other elemental damage types and physical as well.
a FoH pally gets his dmg from skills (investing skillpoints), and even untwinked you still receive the same amout of skillpoints to invest. Also +skill gear is much easyer to obtain then high dmg gear, specialy for a pally. only think about a spirit sword and spirit shield and you got +4 all, and very nice other mods as well.
from playing point of vieuw this build seems safer as well (you can keep your distance), and while immunitys could become a little problem, conviction should break moost of these.
final thing is that FoH is lightning dmg, which we may already have quite a lot IF the other caracters are a trapper and a jav ama.
1 final note on this car is that i was, and more or less still am, in doubt wether to play a trapper or a FoH pally, cause i think untwinked FoH will really shine.
the conc/zerk barb will be a pretty nice tank, and the BO/Shout/battle command will be of great value for the team.
HOWEVER... don't expect to really kill anything with conc. it needs a really high dmg weapon to be just a little effective, which we moost likely won't find since its untwinked. i actualy once played a conc barb in SC, he used an eth BOTD zerker, and in hell i still didn't kill much at all... the barb WAS undestructible however, best tank i ever made.
there is no barb build that really works untwinked, but if you really want 1 i would advise either wirlwind or frenzy. a cry barb with double spirit swords might work as well.
the poison ama i haven't ever seen nor played in action.. and i actualy would love to see 1. lightning seems a logical back up in this case, but there again.. we need to make sure we don't have only lightning. another option is a poison/freeze arrow combination, a bit like i played my ama this round, only with psn instead of lightning. the freeze effect is SUPER if you ask me.
then the enchantress: never seen one in action with a bow, and i don't realy know how effective they can be. what is sure is that our mercs, and other minions, will like the enchant VERY much. the total dmg output of the sorc may not be very high, but if you add the extra enchant damage our minions (and possibly any other caracters) would do, the total extra damage becomes quite high. with leaf and spirit as options she also seems a viable option untwinked. what i would like to know is the ammount of fire dmg enchant can add?
well.. enough for now, will speak you guys/girls later
regards
eurymone
02-02-2006, 12:04
Guys I just wanna let you know that I've just managed to get 2 free days from work :jig: and am going skiing for 4 days. This means I'll be back very late on monday, but can easily play KTA straight away on tuesday or wednesday.
i spoke to waflob yesterday and he told me he is going to be late coming monday as well.
so it seems i will finish those hell ancients and hell baal off by my own, and by the time you guys get there i will make sure we can go cowing :grin:
joking of cource:rolleyes: ... maybe its a good idea to delay that event a day or maybe 2? both teusday and wednesday would be viable options for me as far as i can see now. so waflob... how about you?
have fun skiing eury... don't break any bones or whatever :dizzy:
Guys I just wanna let you know that I've just managed to get 2 free days from work :jig: and am going skiing for 4 days. This means I'll be back very late on monday, but can easily play KTA straight away on tuesday or wednesday.
strange - I'll also be late on Monday, unlikely before 9:00 pm
Does anyone have any problems moving this to Tuesday ? Just this once ?
No problems otherwise, it will just take us another session to complete.
DelBoy
tuesday it is... same time same place.. just another day for this 1 time.
i have been thinking some more about next KTA round and i have another option we could do... please think about it and reply what you think of it.
we could make a team with a secondary goal, next to completing the entire game untwinked... and for that goal i have in mind: finding a key of each type and beating the ubers.
i had in mind that we would just do it the same way we played every KTA up till now, just play the entire game, from normal act 1 to hell act 5 UNTWINKED. after we finish this we could twink ourselves as much as we need to be able to complete the new task ahead (but could also go on untwinked). then we start keyrunning, until we find 1 of each type. and then the final battle against the ubers.
i have never seen the ubers, never fought them, and never even found a key. i have no idea what builds or items we would need to complete this task, but i DO like the chalenge.
the above would imply that we would have to create a team that is able to
1. complete the game untwinked
2. do safe keyruns for all 3 keys
3. battle, and of cource defeat, the ubers.
seems to me that not every team can do all these tasks, so we would have to put together a very efficient team.
let me hear what you think, and wether you are up for such a new and huge challenge.
Tika
eurymone
02-02-2006, 15:03
Deal, see you on tuesday. The "Ubers KTA" idea seems great for me, but I'm also a noob on this matter. A smiter with lots of CB will be needed i think, maybe a sorc for static and tele while keyrunning? A BO barb would be handy too.
we could go for the ubers, but we might get bored first. You actually need 9 keys, not 3, so as to get 3 organs, that combine to open the portal to uber tristram. I don't know the chances of getting a key, but so far, after about a week of casual searching, I've found 1.
Assuming we didn't get totally pooned, there is the question of who gets the coveted reward. We should be able to get outside BO and maybe enchant as well. As for UTristram, looks more like we'll be needing 3 paladins (smite/zeal, avenger, salvation).
I may have gotten all this totally wrong and be totally misinformed, so please correct me if this is the case. It is still an interesting idea, but we would need to make chars suitable for this.
DelBoy
i have done some research as well in the meantime... and i found several things indeed.
you indeed need 3 times 3 keys... and then still you could get 3 times the same organ. you need 3 different organs to open up to uber trist.
then it seems that only very specificly designed caracters are really suited for doing this quest, and that indeed we would need to design our entire team around it. the team it would take to do uber trist would moost likely not be very suited to play the game untwinked all the way like KTA used to.
there are several disadvantages i foud so far:
1 we need LOADS and LOADS of keyruns before we have all those we need.
2 we would have to "design" our team in a way that is not very good for our other purpose
3 it seems a pretty dangerous undertaking, with good chances someone, or even all of us, would die.
my personal conclusion at this moment is that the enormous investment it takes, specialy in time invested, isn't worth it...
imagine we do all the work, and as soon as we enter uber trist we get killed... what did we do it for?
so maybe this aint a good idea after all.
anyone has any other SUPERgoals we could set ourselves to after we complete hell?
regards
Tika
Most of what you said is true, but just one slight correction. If you have all 9 keys (3 of each) and open portals in the same game, one after the other, then you won't get the same organ twice. You will get each part once only.
This makes hope our biggest factor, as we hope that no duping lamer crashes the server we're on, and we hope that the connectivity stays for all 3 runs. The same hope is also used during the visit to uber tristram. It would annoy me immensely, to go through all the key gathering, organ getting, only to have the server crash as we enter uber tristram.
The part about the specific build is unfortunately very true. Just look at the paladin forum - at least half of the questions are of the type "how do I make a smiter for the ubers ?"
Maybe this shouldn't be our ultimate goal, but if we have to decide between different options, we should take this into account.
The main thing is the fun !
DelBoy
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