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TheNinjaBoy
27-01-2006, 18:11
Hi,

I'm going to make a Zealor for uber tris mostly but i will be baalrunning and pvming, as my main char, and he will have grief pb with the usuals.

Will I make it a frost zealor or a normal zealor? Is there alot of addvantages/disadvantages, damage wise, and even fun wise things?

Thanks in advance,
:thumbsup:

P.S what should i call him!:wave:

Evrae Altana
27-01-2006, 18:47
Since you're mostly going to kill the Ubers, then go with the regular zealot. With your one point in smite and Fanaticism, they should go down easily. A frost zealot would be more fun to play with though.

Dennis_KoreanGuy
27-01-2006, 18:56
Frostie is definitely a lot of fun, especially in ZvZ games. Against ubers, Fanat > HF.

TheNinjaBoy
27-01-2006, 19:55
Yeah, thanks, i will be doing ubers, yeah il think il go with regular 1, but is the frostie good at pvm?:azn:

Evrae Altana
27-01-2006, 20:37
but is the frostie good at pvm?Yes, a frosty can be good at PvM and isn't as gear intensive as the regular zealot since most of his damage comes from his aura.

kingdryland
27-01-2006, 21:41
If you go normal fanatic zealot then 20 zeal 20 fanaticism 20 sacrifice 20 holy shield rest defiance or blessed aim,perhaps 1 in sanctuary. If you go frost zealot I strongly recommend that you should max again zeal and sacrifice,in order to get a physical damage backbone that together with crushing blow and deadly strike from gear will allow you to easily kill cold immunes and at the same time leech. 20 zeal 20 sacrifice 20 holy shield 20 holy freeze rest in resist cold. Frost zealots are low on attack rating and they need a very speedy weapon to reach max zeal speed. I recommend a crescent moon phase blade. You will need an extra 50% ias for last bp. Good alternatives are azurewrath and lightsabre.

AnimeCraze
27-01-2006, 23:46
Isn't the whole idea of frost zealot doing cold damage? I think it might be better to max resist cold first instead of sacrifice. Afterall, you will probably be using a low damage, but very fast weapon.

kingdryland
28-01-2006, 00:11
The deal is this. Low physical damage=low leech*. Cold dependence=problems vs immunes. The whole idea of a frost zealot is not cold imho. He is still a zealot. He needs his skill and the synergy of it maxed. He is not fanatic,that's all.

*by leech I mean tap. Even a lightsabre without fanaticism leeches enough with life tap.

MegaFlame
28-01-2006, 03:54
A fanatic zealot with sucky wep does crap damage in hell and sux bad compared to a frost zealer who doesn't rely on his weapon's base damage but rather on skill point increase which is a lot more obtainable compared to raw damage weps like botd or grief.

Talga Vasternich
28-01-2006, 18:17
Having just finished Baal/Hell with a FrostZealot, there is a lot to recommend.
I am game-poor, and this was a very cheap build.
IMO, there is a greater benefit to maxing HolyFreeze + ColdResist + Salvation before maxing Zeal. Cold damage far outweighs physical damage from this build, and it is easier to achieve earlier in the game.
I had no problems with cold immunes...the problem came with cold AND physical immunes. I'd switch to a lightsabre and just have to spend time hacking away.

kingdryland
28-01-2006, 23:23
Ok now try maxing zeal and sacrifice first and ignore salvation. I have done it both ways, and the increased amount of leech from the physical way made my life whole lotta easier. The numbers on screen won't be that impressive but that is the last thing that matters to me. This way you can even solo hell with a holy fire zealot that uses lightsabre/smoke/dracs/guil face/gore rider etc...

MegaFlame
29-01-2006, 00:18
IMO you get more damage by maxing sacrifice rather than salvation in the end. So still I would recommend sacrifice because it does deal with cold immunes better after all and weps like lightsabre can't quite dispatch the cold immunes that fast without supportive damage from other sources. For immunes of both cold and physical, weps like stormlash just own.

AnimeCraze
29-01-2006, 00:31
I believe cold resist is worth maxing before sacrifice, but not salvation. The return is just too poor.

MegaFlame
29-01-2006, 00:33
cold resist is a must have for holy freeze damage. however salvation is not necessary unless you're a party guy who boosts the whole party's resists a lot. otherwise sacrifice gets the job done much better in hell where cold immunes roam the land.