Burning Question....

[Spicy_Meatball]

Hi,

I fell in love with the enchantress build i saw in a game and i'm itching to make one too. Skills are a no-brainer i guess: enchant, warmth, fire mastery, telekinesis all max. Point in static, teleport and energy shield. Rest in one of the cold armors.

Items i think i will use are (plz don't flame (pun intended:wink3: ) i want to be original):
helm: ?
amulet: highlord
armor: dragon runeword
rings: ravenfrost and bk or wisp
belt: verdungo or nosferatu coil
gloves: hellmouth or laying of hands
boots: gore riders or treks
shield: phoenix runeword
weapon: hand of justice runeword

I have a question about a couple of items:

The hand of justice runeword gives lvl36 blaze when lvl-up. Phoenix (in shield) gives lvl40 blaze when lvl-up.
What lvl blaze will trigger when i lvl-up? 36, 40 or 76??? And will fire mastery boost its damage???

[HerrOber]

if u planing on using hoj and dragon armor why not a dragon shield to? and firemaster will boost the holy firedmg yes.

[twisturwhig]

If you are rich use dream and a few in light mastery too :-P

[Lord Nyax]

Well here's my input. I have a level 76 very nice (well, I think it's nice) Enchantress. There are a couple Enchantress guides I could point out, but I think I can answer all your questions.

First off, you will need to get TONS of +All Skills or +Fire Skills. A level 20 fully synergized Enchant does about 1/18 of what a level 40 fully synergized Enchant, so every single +Skill you can sqeeze in WILL make a huge difference. Just for reference, my level 47 Enchant lets me do ~18k per hit with my bow.

Moving on to the Phoenix choice, my opinion is that Phoenix is a very very bad choice. First off, to the Blaze question, even IF it did cast a level 76 Blaze, that would still be fairly weak damage, far too little to kill, say, Hell Mephisto, even if he took it all at once (and even if it did, are you seriously going to try to level every time you want to kill something?). Nonetheless, the only really good advantage to using the Phoenix runeword is for the 370%+ increased damage, which isn't really an Enchantress' strong suit.

Now according to my sources, 48% IAS is the last breakpoint at 10 frames per attack. Your setup gives you 33% (HoJ) + 20% (Highlords) + 10% (Nosferatu's Coil). Now you also chose the option of using Verdungo's, which I'd suggest you take if you're going to use Highlords.

Of course, as someone already mentioned, if you are truly intent on doing MELEE damage, then I would highly suggest using dual Dreams (Helm + Shield) instead of the Holy Fire. Yes, you would have to max ANOTHER skill, but not only would it allow you to take the many, many Fire Immunes, it would add more damage, seeing as how Lightning mastery is much higher than Fire mastery. Then you could go out and get yourself a Beast or something similar, which would immediately give you the 10 FPA attack speed(not to mention that you get to turn into a BEAR!).

Now you mention Phoenix, which I've already discussed, so I'm going to assume you're insanely rich. In that case, the rings I would suggest would be a Raven Frost and a SoJ.

Now, in the best of worlds, you'd have 9x Fire GC's to pre-buff your Enchant, then get 9x Light GC's with huge life or FHR to use regularly. That'd be kinda boring, but hey, level 50 Enchant lasts for something like 25 minutes, so it's not like you'd be doing it often. However, do not take this the wrong way. I HIGHLY suggest you get as much +skill gear as you can, and simply keep it in your stash for pre-buff. Arach, SoJ's, Fire GC's, you name it and you should keep it to pre-buff. I must close with the repetition that every SINGLE skill point matters with Enchant.

Well, I guess I won't close with that, but rather the admission that I'm not God. I wish I were omniscient, but I have to deal with my limitations. I hope I don't lead you astray with my extremely long and drawn out post, and I hope that I answered most of your questions. If I didn't say so. I'll keep in touch with this thread for a while.

[nickedoff]

47 Enchant lets me do ~18k per hit with my bow

The double mastery thing doesn't work with bows or ranged weapons.

Two dreams beat the sucky fire damage on HoJ and Dragon.

Robophases (3 Shael two IAS jewels one Eth rune in a Phase Blade) make nutty weapons for enchantresses.

[Gimmershred]

The double mastery thing doesn't work with bows or ranged weapons.

Two dreams beat the sucky fire damage on HoJ and Dragon.

Robophases (3 Shael two IAS jewels one Eth rune in a Phase Blade) make nutty weapons for enchantresses.

i'll post a couple of numbers to back that up.

let's say you have a lvl 40 fire mastery or light mastery.

Dragon+hoj+phoenix:
lvl 30 holyfire --> average fire damage to attack 267, lvl40fm x2 = 606%
-28% fire res on phoenix and a nice redemption aura in pvm or not bad, but the added damage from dragon+hoj isn't worth the 2 spots, for a better option when using phoenix on a enchantress look below.

Dragon+hoj+dragon
lvl 44 holyfire --> average fire damage 561 , lvl40fm x2 = 606%

Dream+Dream
lvl 30 holyshock --> average light damage 834.5 lvl40lm x2 = 1036%

So you see dualdream is already much more effective on a sorc then dragon+dragon+hoj, cause of the fact that the damage added by the aura itself is much higher and because the lightning mastery reaches a much higher %.

As far as you consider phoenix. It's not a bad shield for pvm with it's redemption aura. If you have it and you want to use it make a physical damage enchantress. Use grief pb+forti+phoenix and get a high lvl enchant and fire mastery. Don't max a cold armor then cause the cold armor of forti will overwrite it constantly.

About that robophase, according to the ias calculator i use a sorc gets her 10fpa attack with only 50% ias already. So maybe you mean that robo for on a bearsorc?

[nickedoff]

Oh.
I didn't realize someone would think about making an enchantress that didn't zeal or didn't go into bear mode.

x.x

[Gimmershred]

Oh.
I didn't realize someone would think about making an enchantress that didn't zeal or didn't go into bear mode.

x.x

hitting 9 fpa normal attack with a wizspike aint that bad :D

[Spicy_Meatball]

Thanks all for the advice, calculations and tips...

I'm not so interested in dual dream because i wanted to make a fairly "unique" enchantress. With the equipment i intended to use i saw her as a "burning demon" (the balrog from LOTR springs to mind... :cool: ).
Lots of firestorms going off from the torch, phoenix and maybe hellmouth, chance to cast hydra, -48% fire resistance, redemption aura and a lvl30 holy fire aura, i thought that would look cool and maybe had a chance to survive in hell difficulty... Damage wouldn't be godly, but thats OK: i didn't intend her to be a cookie-cutter build.

I'm not so sure on what to do now: To be build or not to be build... :undecided:

Can anybody confirm what level blaze will cast if this build will level up. Level 30, 46 or 76??? And will the blaze firedamage be boosted by fire mastery?