Tal's Set Opinion

[OmegaHatred]

I have a lvl 81 Meteorb Sorc and was thinking about getting Tal's Set. I was wondering what ppl think about the set.

[AnimeCraze]

Very hard to beat this set for 2 element sorcs unless you use much, much more expensive equipments. Read the -15% resist as "+15% final damage and more if enemy has high resist"

[Dadou]

As a lot of people already stated, Tal is awesome for excellent balance between MF and survavibility, with good offensive power (- ennemy res is great !)
Plus, it is WAY cheaper thant the godly unique-equipment...

I am currently levelling a meteorb, and i plan myself on using Ful Tal ^_^

I can't wait to be 71 !!

I never hesitated between Tal and something else... You could get a little more MF with Tri-Tal and Occy, Shako etc. and get a little more firepower, but don't ruin yourself to get those if you can get Ful Tal (or already have).

Only point of indecision concerning Tal : the shield to use.... I don't have Storm, and I'll have to try Gerke, Whitstand or Visceratuant... I play HC and want to go max block, so long Spirit Monarch... :os

[Evrae Altana]

I personally hate Tal's set. Don't get me wrong, the resists, MF, and skills are a great combination and the set is very effective. It's just, oh, how can I put it....ugly as hell.

[Dadou]

Take it as a Fancy Dress Bal, we're here to be effective. Even if goodlooking character is important to self esteem, Tal has so much in its favor that it's not such a big pain in the ***. Besides i don't spend my time watching my char but the ennemies or drops in front of me ;op
Wanna talk about Leviathan baba look with destroyer helm ? (you know these ugly horned saucepans)

[EnerSense]

Tal's is great overall. As it was stated in the "Truth about Tal's Set" thread, this is good for Dual or Tri-Elemental sorcs. Try to get a Lidless Eye with +2 to all masteries if you don't already have one. (At least for the 2 elements you are using if dual.) It will add to the effectiveness of the set.

-ES

edit: If anything is ugly about it, it's the death mask.

[Undercat]

It's not gorgeous, but it impresses the noobs when you stroll in glowing.

But seriously, I'd guess it's the cheapest way (by a HUGE margin) to get as much FCR, Skills, MF and resists. True, if you had unlimited wealth, it wouldn't be ideal, but for folks like me who can't necessarily drop 6-10 HR on arachnid and SoJ's, Full Tal's makes a very hellworthy sorc for about 1.5 Ist.

Incidentally the fact that tal's doesn't have tons of +skills, I think a spirit shield is mandatory. It also takes you that final jump to the 105% tele, which I now believe is critical for high speed, low risk MF runs.

For all of you using Stormsheild, try spirit once, add Magefist and any fcr ring to hit that 105%, I almost guarantee you'll never go back. It cut my times noticibly and probably doubled my "not dying" rate. I can't remember who it was who said this, but it's perfect:

"With 65% FCR, you can tele to meph safely, but with 105% FCR, you can tele there while scratching your balls."

Do it for your balls.

[ByteMeHard]

It's not gorgeous, but it impresses the noobs when you stroll in glowing.

But seriously, I'd guess it's the cheapest way (by a HUGE margin) to get as much FCR, Skills, MF and resists. True, if you had unlimited wealth, it wouldn't be ideal, but for folks like me who can't necessarily drop 6-10 HR on arachnid and SoJ's, Full Tal's makes a very hellworthy sorc for about 1.5 Ist.

Incidentally the fact that tal's doesn't have tons of +skills, I think a spirit shield is mandatory. It also takes you that final jump to the 105% tele, which I now believe is critical for high speed, low risk MF runs.

For all of you using Stormsheild, try spirit once, add Magefist and any fcr ring to hit that 105%, I almost guarantee you'll never go back. It cut my times noticibly and probably doubled my "not dying" rate. I can't remember who it was who said this, but it's perfect:

"With 65% FCR, you can tele to meph safely, but with 105% FCR, you can tele there while scratching your balls."

Do it for your balls.

Seriously man. You get there without blinking twice. If you equip your merc with Infinity you have -15% on all 3 elements and all kinds of other bonuses, and just pump everything into Vit since you're gonna use Spirit. You'll never die with the buttload of life you'll have.

[ThePanzyLord]

Is tal's set really that good?
Right now I'am using a non es/non block FB sorc using Occy, Shako, Vipermagi/Skullders, Saracans Chance, Natures Peace, 37 MF ring, Magefists, Tal's Belt (I actually wanted Goldwraps) and some 10%mf Ice/Lightning res boots, and 34% spirit.
Should I try to replace some of this with tals set? Which would be better?

[AnimeCraze]

Forget about Tal's if you are 1 element. You can get better gears and mass of rainbow facets of that element. 2 element sorcs can't do that since they would have to split their facets around, and become less effective.

If you are poor, it's not a bad deal, though.

[ThePanzyLord]

Well tal's is still pretty expensive on ladder so I guess tal's is out of the question. Also, why are facets so good? All they seem to do is add 5% more dmg which is added after mastery, so why is that a big deal? Is it because of the -5% on it?

[Evrae Altana]

The +5% damage is very noticeable for cold sorcs since Cold Mastery lowers enemy resist instead of boosting your own damage. For light and fire sorcs, the -% enemy resists helps them out a lot.