Stupid Question

[Omikron8]

I was wondering what the EIAS breakpoints (not IAS) are for the various framerates on bows/xbows for a zon. The FAQ only lists the IAS breakpoints and the stickies in this forum don't have it (Unless i'm blind).

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[Leohappy]

Here are the general EIAS breakpoints for both Strafe and Normal Attack for Amazon class. With these breakpoints you should be able to calculate the IAS needed for any bow and fana level. No other information is needed.

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EIAS breakpoints for 10 arrow Strafe

Speed |Speed (full sequence) |EIAS
------+-------------------------+----
13/3 |6,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3+7 | 0
12/3 |6,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3+6 | 11
11/3 |5,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3+6 | 21
10/3 |5,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3+5 | 23
9/3 |5,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3+4 | 38
9/2 |4,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2+5 | 50
8/2 |4,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2+4 | 58
------+-------------------------+----


EIAS breakpoints for Normal Attack

Speed |Speed (full sequence) |EIAS
------+-------------------------+----
13 |6+7 | 0
12 |6+6 | 8
11 |6+5 | 17
11 |5+6 | 21
10 |5+5 | 28
9 |5+4 | 41
9 |4+5 | 50
8 |4+4 | 56
7 |4+3 | 75
------+-------------------------+----

Here's the formula to convert EIAS to IAS:
IAS = (120 * EIAS) / (120 - EIAS)

A quick example:
Strafe with lvl 15 Fanatism from Faith Grand Matron Bow.

1) 58 EIAS needed for 8/2 Strafe
2) GMB is [10] WSM bow so you will need 58+10 = 68 EIAS (you can add the WSM and EIAS like that)
3) lvl 15 Fanatism gives you 33 EIAS, so that takes it 68-33 = 35 EIAS needed
4) Use the formula: IAS = (120 * 35) / (120 - 35) = 49.4 = 50% IAS needed

Strafe breakpoints for crossbows are a bit weird and they don't translate to the conventional "X/Y" notations very well because there are cases where the speeds of the follow-up arrows differ inside the same sequence.

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EIAS breakpoints for 10 arrow Strafe

Speed |Speed (full sequence) |EIAS
------+-------------------------+----
19/5 |9,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5+10 | 0
18/5 |9,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5+9 | 8
19/4 |9,4,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5+9 | 12
17/5 |8,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5+9 | 13
16/5 |8,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5+8 | 15
16/5 |8,5,4,5,4,5,4,5,4,5+8 | 21
15/5 |8,5,4,5,4,5,4,5,4,5+7 | 24
15/4 |8,4,4,4,4,4,4,4,4,4+7 | 25
15/4 |7,4,4,4,4,4,4,4,4,4+8 | 29
14/4 |7,4,4,4,4,4,4,4,4,4+7 | 34
15/3 |7,3,4,4,4,4,4,4,4,4+7 | 43
14/3 |7,3,4,4,4,4,4,4,4,4+6 | 46
12/4 |6,4,3,4,3,4,3,4,3,4+6 | 50
11/4 |6,4,3,4,3,4,3,4,3,4+5 | 61
11/3 |6,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3+5 | 67
------+-------------------------+----


EIAS breakpoints for Normal Attack

Speed |Speed (full sequence) |EIAS
------+-------------------------+----
19 |9+10 | 0
18 |9+9 | 6
17 |9+8 | 12
17 |8+9 | 13
16 |8+8 | 18
15 |8+7 | 25
15 |7+8 | 29
14 |7+7 | 34
13 |7+6 | 43
13 |6+7 | 50
12 |6+6 | 54
11 |6+5 | 67
------+-------------------------+----

Edit:

If you wonder why there are two same breakpoints (example 17 frame normal attack with xbow is listed twice), it's because the first one is 9+8 and the second one is 8+9. The first number means the frame at which point the arrow is actually shot and the animation finishes and the second number (after the '+') is the duration of the "rest" period that d2 just waits before executing the next animation in line. In practice the difference between 9+8 and 8+9 is meaningless (unless you just use one single shot) so just use the first one.

PS: I don't know exactly from where I got these tables from but they seem to be very accurate (must be the latest EIAS tables for 1.10).

[Omikron8]

those bow tables for base +10?

what about base -10 ?

[Leohappy]

those bow tables for base +10?

what about base -10 ?All you need is those tables and windows calculator and you can calculate ias speeds with various ias and fanat combinations for all bows / xbows. Just read slowly (word by word). It's all there.