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LukeJames
10-01-2006, 22:14
Cheap Monster-Mashing Barbarian
Gear
Bonesnap
Sigon Helm
Sigon Gloves
Sigon Belt
Sigon Boots
Angelic Ammy
Angelic Ring
7% Manald Ring
Angelic Mantle
Perks
10% Life Steal
7% Mana Steal
100% Magic Find (50% from one ring, 50% from Sigon Boots)
4 Slot Belt
50 + 30 + 20 = 100 Fire Resist (Around 152 after Natural Resistance)
30 + 40 = 70 Cold Resist (Around 122 after Natural Resistance)
+1 Skills
40% Crushing Blow
Defence Per Level (Sigon Belt)
Attack Rating (Sigon Helm, 1x Angelic Halo, 50% from Boots)
Stats
Strength: 120 Base Strength (130 from Sigon Gloves)
Dexterity: Base (+10 from Angelics)
Vitality : Everything
Energy : Base
Skills
Whirlwind : 20 +1
Mace Mastery : 20 +1
Battle Orders : 20 +1
Battle Command : 1 +1
Increased Stamina : 1 +1
Faster Run/Walk : 8 +1
Iron Skin : 1 +1
Natural Resist : 8 +1
Shout : Whatever is remaining
Will it work?
DougDadyUsWest
11-01-2006, 00:02
Cheap Monster-Mashing Barbarian
Gear
Bonesnap
Sigon Helm
Sigon Gloves
Sigon Belt
Sigon Boots
Angelic Ammy
Angelic Ring
7% Manald Ring
Angelic Mantle
Perks
10% Life Steal
7% Mana Steal
100% Magic Find (50% from one ring, 50% from Sigon Boots)
4 Slot Belt
50 + 30 + 20 = 100 Fire Resist (Around 152 after Natural Resistance)
30 + 40 = 70 Cold Resist (Around 122 after Natural Resistance)
+1 Skills
40% Crushing Blow
Defence Per Level (Sigon Belt)
Attack Rating (Sigon Helm, 1x Angelic Halo, 50% from Boots)
Stats
Strength: 120 Base Strength (130 from Sigon Gloves)
Dexterity: Base (+10 from Angelics)
Vitality : Everything
Energy : Base
Skills
Whirlwind : 20 +1
Mace Mastery : 20 +1
Battle Orders : 20 +1
Battle Command : 1 +1
Increased Stamina : 1 +1
Faster Run/Walk : 8 +1
Iron Skin : 1 +1
Natural Resist : 8 +1
Shout : Whatever is remaining
Will it work?
Sure it will work, but you would be in trouble in player 8 games. Are you planning on MF in player 1 games, or leveling up/MF at flayer in public games? Your build uses too many sets for my liking, but I wasn't too excited for the results from my pvm barb this season, who only used sigons.
Anyone have success soloing in hell mode player 8 games, and killing quickly?
fredsta54
11-01-2006, 00:19
if this is for an mf barb the setup looks kinda off. For a pvm barb its kinda off. It looks like an akward mix between the 2
But, sure, it would work
Bonesnap kills whole packs of flayers in 1 ww in 8 player games
In river of flame, in 8 player games its kinda slow vs strong urdars, but it works
8 player trav it kills fast
EDIT: your strength looks 2 low
Fred
LukeJames
11-01-2006, 00:36
How can I make it better?
fredsta54
11-01-2006, 02:36
How can I make it better?
well i sound liek a broken record but.... well, it depends if you want to be a beast or you want to be decent + have mf
Lets go w/ beast :)
Gskin
angelic ammy + ring
mana steal ring, rare wins, manald works
Sigs gloves + helm
Rare belt with resists, life, strength, or sigs if you cant find better
gob toe
Highest ed bsnap you can get
150 vita
rest strength
20 ww
20 mastery
20 bo
20 shout
1 bc
none inc speed
~50 resist from nat resist after bc (cant remember what lvl this is)
I tried this with 100 vita rest to strngth, and then several diffirent strength/vita ratios, and i found 150/rest to strength to be the most effective, in terms of staying alive and killing fast
Fred
LukeJames
11-01-2006, 03:04
Goldskin is out of the question, too expensive, too hard to magic find with no viable-characters. Same goes with the ring and belt.
fredsta54
11-01-2006, 03:22
Goldskin is out of the question, too expensive, too hard to magic find with no viable-characters. Same goes with the ring and belt.
manald and sig belt are not out of the question
Gskin... if you cant get this, try. If still cant, any armour with resists will do
Fred
if you plan on doing hell travincal runs, make sure you have 75 (or close to 75) lightning resists. Its absolutely crucial, trust me. The council dudes spam their lightning attack all over the place and it will kill you fast even if you have life leech. Fire resist should also be 75.
In my eyes, this would be a reasonable setup for general pvm action:
Irathas crown / tarnhelm
Rare armor with resists / goldskin
Bonesnap
1 Angelic ring
Angelic amu
dual leech ring (you can get one for 500k cash)
sigon boots, belt and gloves.
You might want to replace sigon boots with goblin toe later on in the game if you find that the crushing blow bonus is helpful.
LukeJames
11-01-2006, 18:44
One problem with that is all the Attack Rating is being supported by is a single halo ring. That will still hit with whirlwind but not nearly as effective.
fredsta54
11-01-2006, 18:47
if you plan on doing hell travincal runs, make sure you have 75 (or close to 75) lightning resists. Its absolutely crucial, trust me. The council dudes spam their lightning attack all over the place and it will kill you fast even if you have life leech. Fire resist should also be 75.
In my eyes, this would be a reasonable setup for general pvm action:
Irathas crown / tarnhelm
Rare armor with resists / goldskin
Bonesnap
1 Angelic ring
Angelic amu
dual leech ring (you can get one for 500k cash)
sigon boots, belt and gloves.
with my setup you get 75 lr/fr
50-60 from nat resist
up to 30 fr + lr on rare ring
35 from gskin
up to 30 fr + lr on rare belt
Thats maxed lr/fr in hell even with mediorce ring//belt.
With sigs/manald, your resists are not quite maxed, but you can still survive just fine
With your setup, you will kill slower due to lower ar, and the r/w from sigons boots. Goblin toe owns over any boot for pvm barbs w/o mf no questions asked
Fred
One problem with that is all the Attack Rating is being supported by is a single halo ring. That will still hit with whirlwind but not nearly as effective.
Perhaps. But it still has ~70% chance to hit.
LukeJames
11-01-2006, 21:55
You want FRW boots. If you don't run fast, then your runs will take up to three minutes longer. Which means a slower supply of treasures, not good productivity. A sorceress can teleport, a paladin can charge, barbarians/amazons need fast run/walk or else they will lack.
fredsta54
11-01-2006, 22:24
You want FRW boots. If you don't run fast, then your runs will take up to three minutes longer. Which means a slower supply of treasures, not good productivity. A sorceress can teleport, a paladin can charge, barbarians/amazons need fast run/walk or else they will lack.
but w/o gob toe your dmg will be severely cut
r/w on a pvm ww barb is bad, cuz it effectively lowers ww dmg
It would hasten runs, besides, where are you going in such a hurry? Flayer + river of flame are pakced with monsters, and trav is close enough
Fred
LukeJames
11-01-2006, 22:48
Durance Level Three is my intended destination.
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