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Through countless MF runs and Uber runs I've managed to come across a full aldur and torch set. Instead of trading them in I thought about building my first real Druid. I apologise if these questions are a bit basic but...:
i)Which build would you recommend?
ii) How powerful is the Aldur set compared to the runewords?
I realise (as with all characters) that a rune build would be the ideal setup. However, with other characters I've usually found the set items to be more than helpful and strong enough to deal with Hell (eg. Tal Rasha). Do u think a strong enough Aldur can be built to be able to do hell on your own? Any hints info would be greatly appreciated.
thx
and what would be the best items to socket aldur with?
inanefedaykin
08-01-2006, 01:50
Nothing works, aldurs is possitively the worst set ever. You're better off with sigs in hell.
Forcefeedback
08-01-2006, 16:01
i) Anything but physical damage melee, but whichever build you pick you will regret choosing full aldurs.
ii) Its like comparing crappy to the best. Only reasonably good piece in the set are the boots
If you want to socket aldurs, probably Pruby for more life from the helm and something like tir's to the weapon.
aldur is not good for any build :rolleyes:
its weapon is to crap to get a fury shaper
its weapon is to slow to make a bear shaper
its +skills is to less to make ele druid
the only part used off aldur set = boots due the nice stats for the rest aldur is the worse set in this game
And orange goat head - ugh.
It could work for a FC bear though, i think that build would suit it best.
FC bear or FC/rabies wolf works...neither is very good but who said it had to be good. Killing in hell is tough but it can work. You need shaels or IAS/ED jewels in the club iirc. If it doesn't fly you can always swap out of it.
ElJefeII
13-01-2006, 06:50
FC bear or FC/rabies wolf works...neither is very good but who said it had to be good. Killing in hell is tough but it can work. You need shaels or IAS/ED jewels in the club iirc. If it doesn't fly you can always swap out of it.
freaky thing is that the best set for druids is the Barb set. the best set for barbs is the sorc set. (well for mf'ing pvm)
I also thought that if mavina's didnt have a bow, it would breat for a melee setup with its big cold length, +skills, runwalk, etc etc. At least it can kill in hell.
IK glove hammer belt boots are such a great wolf-smacker build. they are cheap to get too. Two Shaels in the maul for pvm with a Guillames face, super balanced character with duress on. (and cheap!)
inanefedaykin
13-01-2006, 23:40
Hehe, I still remember my pvm fury druid with ik/jalals. Twas fun, but hell was hard as well, hell.
Let's be honest, it's not the best set... but to say that it offers nothing is idiotic. Aldurs complete set offers amazing stats, just bad damage of any type. It offers some of the best resists... ur almost guaranteed max in hell, and 45 to all stats!!! Listen, u could prolly rock a pretty desc fireclaw bear... although I personally went 6soc shael, aldurs could work all right too. Rabies just plain sux, don't bother... but bare with me, k:
For your items--
-3Shael rune your rhythm (for as much speed as u can)
-pRuby your armor and helm
-get highlords (not shape this time) for the extra speed
-use IK gloves/belt for xtra +25% ias and hr
-Storm Shield!
stash: 9shape GC (if u can) and torch (u'd pretty much try to make up as much skillz as u'd lack
...I woulda said magefist but u'd need all the speed u can get, since u don't exactly have a phase blade, ya know.
Skill Tree--
basically just max synergize fissure, which will be 60 points, max fireclaw, and put one on all the other shiznat
All in all, this build may not pwn 6soc Shael/ss firebear builds but it'd be more balanced, with better life/resists and if u get the GC's and torch's u'll easily pull 8k damage...
how bout that?? FACE!
inanefedaykin
14-01-2006, 04:16
Way I see it, 8k fireclaws does 167 fire damage (providing no bm) per slap in pvp. Regular fireclaws builds would do about 292 and not acctualy give up all that much. If you want a fireclaws build, go with an actual fc build.
Valvolux
15-01-2006, 00:02
I used Aldurs on my fireclaws bear before i got any good stuff for him and it worked fine thru hell. No set can compare vs uniques/runewords but thats not the point is it.
creamofthesoup
15-01-2006, 00:31
Way I see it, 8k fireclaws does 167 fire damage (providing no bm) per slap in pvp. Regular fireclaws builds would do about 292 and not acctualy give up all that much. If you want a fireclaws build, go with an actual fc build.
8000 / 6 / 4 = 333 damage....
omgwtfbbqpwned
15-01-2006, 04:24
It's nowhere as good as the Runeword/Unique set-up, and unfortunately, it's arrangement is very bizarre and scattered.
The pelt has no +Skills, the remainder of the set does not provide a great deal of +Tab Skills, the weapon is the same caliber as an Exceptional Unique, there is no Fast Cast available on the Set, and blah-blah-blah.
That taken into consideration, if you're a Class-Specific Set fan like me, then I would like to encourage you make it. :prop:
It is possible to defeat Hell difficulty, I have done it twice (solo). I I used Kaz's Flaming Rabies for both builds, and it was more painful the second time through because I no longer could make use of Carrion Wind.
inanefedaykin
15-01-2006, 20:25
Cream, you're forgetting that first off, most people stack res above 75 and wear at least some form of sorb.
Well, the only use for Aldur I ever thought of is that it has 6 sockets without shield. With a Jeweler's Monarch of the Whale (godly gear ^^) and 10 Fire Facets you gain +50% Fire Damage and -50% Enemy Fire resistance which more than makes up for the lack of +skills on the set, so it can be used on a firedruid to kill unsuspecting people that dont have means of stacking fire res (in fact, fully synergized fissure with 30+ slvl would do GROSS damage if the enemy has exactly 75 fire res) Fire damage for druids grows about linearely unlike sorc's who's damage goes up exponentially, so they won't suffer much from the loss of the +skills. Facets all the better. Fire Druids dont need FCR either. The problem is that any teleport char will eventually kill you, but this is where high resists of aldurs and nice stat bonuses (you wont really have to wear any additional +str to equip a Monarch after you're in Aldur) kick in.
EDIT: Aldur gives a total of +4 elemental skills, so you lose +3 skills compared to a "perfect" Enigma/Hoto/Shako build (godly pelts with +5 Fissure/Volcano/Geddon not taken in account, they are too hard to find), which is easily killed by facets.
@inanefedaykin: rarely if ever someone stacks fire res higher than 100. (from 75 base) Res stacking is usually used to avoid FoHers and clod sorcs, no fire builds except auradin have a form of lowering resists except facets.
Test that in singleplayer and Open Bnet. Might work in fact.
ThePanzyLord
28-01-2006, 03:40
Nothing works, aldurs is possitively the worst set ever. You're better off with sigs in hell.
My friend had a wolf/fire aldurs druid doing 8k armageddon and 1k fury for FI's. Is sig's still better?
AnimeCraze
28-01-2006, 04:11
Why does the weapon have to be a useless exceptional weapon?? And if they do that, why can't they let you upgrade it? The same goes for Nat's boots.
Valvolux
28-01-2006, 04:11
no fire builds except auradin have a form of lowering resists except facets.
Not true,
Hand of Justice Weapon -20%
Ravenlore Sky Spirit -10-20%
Tal Rasha's Lidless Eye Swirling Crystal (3 items) -15%
Mang Song's Lesson Archon Staff (Ladder Only) -7-15%
omgitsmeta
28-01-2006, 11:41
Don't forget the Phoenix runeword. If you max Boulder/Fissure and equip a Phoenix shield, you'll have - to fire resistance, Redemption aura and ctc lvl 22 Firestorm which will be synergized by Boulder/Fissure(which also synergize Fireclaws, yay).
Too bad it's so expensive. :cry:
as stated ... not the best set.
I made a shockwave wb that used summons / geddon and poison creeper. he did okay ... could kill in hell he just doesnt kill fast. And ... well if it was a small pack it took awhile to kill b/c pc was my main killer.
Not true,
Hand of Justice Weapon -20%
Ravenlore Sky Spirit -10-20%
Tal Rasha's Lidless Eye Swirling Crystal (3 items) -15%
Mang Song's Lesson Archon Staff (Ladder Only) -7-15%HoJ is used exclusively by auradins.
Full Tal Firesorc? Duel me plz.
Mang Song in PvP? Duel me plz.
Ravenlore is only used on fire druids and thats exactly what we're talking about.
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