Fanat vs Conviction vs Concentration

[harry56]

How does max conviction stack up to maxed Fanat for Zealer or maxed concentration for hammerdin?

Zealer can max both fanat and conviction.

Anyone tried a max conviction hammerdin? In PVM with mostly sorc party this should work better than concentration.

[MegaFlame]

How does max conviction stack up to maxed Fanat for Zealer or maxed concentration for hammerdin?

Zealer can max both fanat and conviction.

Anyone tried a max conviction hammerdin? In PVM with mostly sorc party this should work better than concentration.

I don't recommend maxing conviction for a hammerdin because then you won't get to your own max potential without the 20 points. As you see usually a hammerdin needs:
BH:max
HS:max
Vigor:max
Conc:max
BA:max

So if you max conviction in place of one of these skills you would:
1.Lose hammer damage if in place of Vigor or BA
2.Lose defense if in place of HS
3.Lose your basic damage source if in place of Conc

So although conviction helps party members, it is the auradins and avengers that should do the favor for party members and not the hammerdins. :xmas2: :xmas23:

[koeraokse]

conviction will not boost hammer damage
conviction will not boost zeal damage
zealot cant max fanaticism and conviction if he is built right
concentration is the best aura for hammerdin
fanaticism is the best aura for zealot
conviction is the best aura for avenger, dreamer

:cheesy:
*priit2

[harry56]

But conviction will lower resists and defense and this works with hammers and zeal

[Pucho]

Conviction lowers fire, lightning, cold resistance and defense. Blessed hammer does magic damage, so no use here.
Unless you are an elemental zealot, you won't need the -%resists from conviction. The -% defense could be useful, but you can use fanaticism aura, which increase your chance to hit by enhancing your attack rating and, at the same taime, it gives you a huge enhanced damage.
I second this:

conviction will not boost hammer damage
conviction will not boost zeal damage
zealot cant max fanaticism and conviction if he is built right
concentration is the best aura for hammerdin
fanaticism is the best aura for zealot
conviction is the best aura for avenger, dreamer

If you want to help a team of mostly sorcs with your conviction aura, you should try an avenger or a templar instead of hammerdin/zealot.

[oneBlast]

1 point into conviction is more than enough to help sorcs/trappers.
You can use conviction in baal party, when there's another hammerdin using concentration.

[LorveN]

But conviction will lower resists and defense and this works with hammers and zeal

Hammers are magic damage, which does not do more damage if the target has lower resists. And hammers are a spell, so defense is not an issue.

[Diabolico x64]

Adding to what everyone else said, Fanatacism and Conviction will not help the damage of Blessed Hammer. Only Concentration helps the damage of that skill.

Also, within the first few skill levels of Fanatacism and Concentration, Concentration will give the most ED%. However, after slvl 6 or so, Fanaticism's ED% will start winning the race for better damage. This is not to mention that Fanaticism also gives attack rating and increased attack speed.

[Pucho]

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Also, within the first few skill levels of Fanatacism and Concentration, Concentration will give the most ED%. However, after slvl 6 or so, Fanaticism's ED% will start winning the race for better damage. This is not to mention that Fanaticism also gives attack rating and increased attack speed.
slvl 2 actually (67%ed against 60%ed from conc)

[Diabolico x64]

slvl 2 actually (67%ed against 60%ed from conc)

Just going by what the skill planner says, slvl 2 of conc will give +75%ED (with +67%ED from Fanat). At slvl 6, both auras give the same +135%ED, and in later levels, Fanat comes out on top.