Awesome poison dagger weapon or charsi trash?

[wheel-of-doom]

I found this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/wheelofdoom/beastsong.jpg) a while ago and I've been wondering if it'd be a nice poison dagger weapon. Sadly no fools mod.......but it does have redeemable qualities. What do you think?

[nickedoff]

Hawt dagger.
If you don't want it, I'll take it - but I dunno if it'd be very good for a poison dagger mancer. If you play single player, and you haven't upgraded to 1.11, Venom still kicks face.
If you want poison damage over physical damage or 'status effect' damage, go with Blackbogs. For more 'status effect damage', go Fury or Fleshripper. Otherwise, that isn't too bad - phys damage style, that is.
I almost spent two sojs on this dagger for my daggerzon the other day -
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y174/nickedoff12/0020a417.jpg

[Necrochild313]

Fleshripper still beats it for the physical damage daggermancer, but it's still not too shabby.

[thaltos]

blackbog's sharp is the ONLY weapon for a daggermancer

[Pucho]

Hawt dagger.
If you don't want it, I'll take it - but I dunno if it'd be very good for a poison dagger mancer. If you play single player, and you haven't upgraded to 1.11, Venom still kicks face.
If you want poison damage over physical damage or 'status effect' damage, go with Blackbogs. For more 'status effect damage', go Fury or Fleshripper. Otherwise, that isn't too bad - phys damage style, that is.
I almost spent two sojs on this dagger for my daggerzon the other day -
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y174/nickedoff12/0020a417.jpg

just wondering, what does it make it soooo good to burn a zod rune in it?

[Necrochild313]

blackbog's sharp is the ONLY weapon for a daggermancer

I fail to understand how (~49 from dagger, ~192 from the +skills with all synergies maxed) 241 extra poison damage/sec and 50% more attack rating in skill bonus compares with Fleshripper's -50% target defense, a lifetapable source of damage (that is a welcome addition if you have the damage-increasing dex in for max block, not to mention the inherit deadly strike that doubles this damage and quadruples with amp), and 50% chance to deal some 201 damage per second that effects poison immunes (at a modest level 75, 267 damage/sec at lvl 90), and 25% crushing blow to boot. If you want to be a sitckler about the 30% ias, +50 to defense, and 30% more slows target (not that you need any more with gumby out), I'll allow it.

The only real advantage Blackbogs gives is the increase to poison dagger's poison length, which helps outside sources such as venom from treachery, charms, ect. And that it's useful as a low level weapon before you hit teh fleshripper :D.

[nickedoff]

just wondering, what does it make it soooo good to burn a zod rune in it?

Well, it's an eth fools. I haven't mentioned this guy was crazy rich; so he could afford to chuck out a zod. I took a screen of everything he was trading -

'bugged' eth shaftstop
upgraded jalas
+5 bone spear deflecting necro head
08 Visceratuant
'bugged' eth headstriker, some jewel in it
a pile of high runes

[Pucho]

Well, it's an eth fools. I haven't mentioned this guy was crazy rich; so he could afford to chuck out a zod. I took a screen of everything he was trading -

'bugged' eth shaftstop
upgraded jalas
+5 bone spear deflecting necro head
08 Visceratuant
'bugged' eth headstriker, some jewel in it
a pile of high runes
well, but it's an eth fool's without any %damage mod, In my book, even a magical fools could be better. Definitely not worth the zod.

[Vladimer]

well, but it's an eth fool's without any %damage mod, In my book, even a magical fools could be better. Definitely not worth the zod.

Sorry to be an idiot, but what exactly do you mean by "fool's"?

Vlad :scratch:

[nickedoff]

'Fool's' is a magic prefix (and rares are just magic items with multiple magic prefixes and magic suffixes)
It provides max damage based on character level (grinding) and attack rating based on character level (hawkeye).
The mod used to be really good, but fewer and fewer people use it - unless they prefer not to use angellics for AR.