Last Laugh 2005?

[jmervyn]

Here. (http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/last_laugh_2005/index.jhtml)

Okay. I'm a bit late, since I watched it from TiVo.

Now what was so funny about it?

I normally like Lewis Black, who was the second opener after Capt. Kirk/Satan, but his material was worse than flat. David Spade can occasionally do well with celeb gossip, but his wasn't any better than Black's.

The only reasonable spot was Carlos Mencia, who despite using his typical "offend everyone" schtick at least worked some decent jokes into it.

But when 3 of the supposed headline comics do nothing blab anti-Shrub fist-in-the-air stuff while Comedy Central plays a laugh track, I found myself using the "skip" programming on my TiVo repeatedly. And even though I'm an old fart, I've heard of plenty of new bands - but not these (Death Cab for Cutie and Yellowcard).

Worst of all was Sarah Silverman. What exactly is supposed to be funny about "singing" Amazing Grace out of her orifices? <<and that was her entire routine>>.

[ragnar_ii]

Yeah, comedy central is definitly not what it used to be. You cant just flip it on and start laughing.
Also, Ive never heard of Death Cab for Cutie, but Im pretty sure Yellowcard is a pretty popular band.

[SaroDarksbane]

Death Cab for Cutie is actually really good.

[Geeno]

Comedy Central goes in very clear cut phases because the shows have such a short run-time/ are often changed on the schedule/ etc.

So like 6 months from now there will be like 10 shows there arent now, mencia will be out of there and probably spade too. Celebrity gossip can suck a nut, no one that watches Comedy Central really cares.

[jmervyn]

Comedy Central goes in very clear cut phases because the shows have such a short run-time/ are often changed on the schedule/ etc.

So like 6 months from now there will be like 10 shows there arent now, mencia will be out of there and probably spade too. Celebrity gossip can suck a nut, no one that watches Comedy Central really cares.

I guess that I was more than a little appalled at what supposedly is their capstone product for the year. An infomercial for Chappelle (discreetly not making any insanity jokes), another not too subtly done for the "Col-ber Re-por" and some uncoordinated booty dancers for eye candy? Sheesh - I think South Park sucks but it is consistently higher quality than this was.

Spade, Mencia, and Black all have at least a little talent. Instead, they're pushing the low end harder than ever...

[dirkdig]

Here. (http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/last_laugh_2005/index.jhtml)

Okay. I'm a bit late, since I watched it from TiVo.

Now what was so funny about it?

I normally like Lewis Black, who was the second opener after Capt. Kirk/Satan, but his material was worse than flat. David Spade can occasionally do well with celeb gossip, but his wasn't any better than Black's.

The only reasonable spot was Carlos Mencia, who despite using his typical "offend everyone" schtick at least worked some decent jokes into it.

But when 3 of the supposed headline comics do nothing blab anti-Shrub fist-in-the-air stuff while Comedy Central plays a laugh track, I found myself using the "skip" programming on my TiVo repeatedly. And even though I'm an old fart, I've heard of plenty of new bands - but not these (Death Cab for Cutie and Yellowcard).

Worst of all was Sarah Silverman. What exactly is supposed to be funny about "singing" Amazing Grace out of her orifices? <<and that was her entire routine>>.
I agree, doesn't sound funny, that kind of stuff doesn't usually appeal to me anyways. Yellowcard and Death Cab are both fairly popular, no-talent crap bands, Yellowcard is kind of punkish/emo whatever whiny ****, don't know much about death cab except that they too lack skill (it's a pretty safe assumption of any new band since 1985, with a few notable exceptions)

[tydon]

I agree, doesn't sound funny, that kind of stuff doesn't usually appeal to me anyways. Yellowcard and Death Cab are both fairly popular, no-talent crap bands, Yellowcard is kind of punkish/emo whatever whiny ****, don't know much about death cab except that they too lack skill (it's a pretty safe assumption of any new band since 1985, with a few notable exceptions)

I did not really like yellowcard, then I went to them live, and they were amazing. Plus they played for 2 hours, which was awesome for a band, no one band plays for that long anymore.

[PatMaGroin]

Yellowcard is kind of punkish/emo whatever whiny ****
But Yellowcard has an electric violin. You didnt get to hear it used to its full potential in that song though. Download, umm, buy Ocean Avenue and listen to the end of it.

But yeah I was not very impressed with Last Laugh. Especially the guy who was talking about Bush looting the treasury. Although I did laugh out loud when he said "Theres a ****** stealin potater chips, shoot that ******!" which surprisingly went uncensored.

Carlos wasn't too bad, but he could've done a lot better. My favorite part had to be Dave Chapelle's sneak peak. The Cribs spoof was pretty good, except for the baby t-rex part.

[SaroDarksbane]

don't know much about death cab except that they too lack skill (it's a pretty safe assumption of any new band since 1985, with a few notable exceptions)
Ignorance is pretty sweet, eh?

"i dun no who they r but i noes they sux0rs roffle!"


Spade, Mencia, and Black all have at least a little talent. Instead, they're pushing the low end harder than ever...
Lewis Black is my favorite comedian. It would be a crushing blow to see him not be funny. T_T

[Rius666]

My roommate listens to Death Cab all the time. I think they are ok but a little bit too soft/easy listening for my taste. Basically if you like Postal Service or maybe stuff like Stereophonics you are going to like Death Cab since Postal Service and Death Cab are basically the same thing.

[FreezerBurn]

they tried a pro-bush comic after the daily show. but he was always wrong and not very funny. the show tanked. i can't even remember the name of the guy on there. now the only right leaning comedy is blue collar tv. go figure. republican humor and redneck humor are one in the same.

[jmervyn]

Lewis Black is my favorite comedian. It would be a crushing blow to see him not be funny. T_T
It wasn't that he was as hollow as, say, Card or as worthless as Silverman. Just that a random Daily Show segment was several magnitudes better in quality. A lot of his bit seemed forced, as if he had taken some really bad writing and encapsulated it in his own routine.

Card did a mocku-drama of the Cruise-Holmes wedding, and while it got a couple of smiles, it was mostly just corny. And I'm about as anti-Scientologist as you can get. Just as much of the anti-Bush stuff wasn't even jokes, just badly delivered insults... there was some impersonator I saw on CC a few weeks back that had my wife & I helpless with laughter, but the political stuff here was just "blech".

In fact, the theme was generally "2005 sucked", yet there was never a real punchline (particularly given that Silverman's singing genitals were the closing bit). Wow, what comedic genius :rolleyes:

[maccool]

Most televisons today come with an OFF button. You must have a special model that not only won't turn off, but forces you to watch programs you don't enjoy. I hope you got a good deal on the price.

[jmervyn]

they tried a pro-bush comic after the daily show. but he was always wrong and not very funny. the show tanked. i can't even remember the name of the guy on there.

Are you sure you're not thinking of "Mind of Mencia"? ComCent gave him a 1/2 hour assortment show, but it suffered from bad focus - they couldn't settle on a format. He's hardly conservative, though he's no libbie either.

There was also "Tough Crowd", which was a talk show, but I don't think it followed Stewart either.


now the only right leaning comedy is blue collar tv. go figure. republican humor and redneck humor are one in the same.
Ah, yes, your informed opinion again, and this time regarding humor... :lol:

Don't confuse population with mentality; I believe the term we've discussed before is "false causation". Just because entertainers are currently liberals doesn't mean liberals are more entertaining. P.J. O'Rourke is generally regarded as the preeminent American humorist.

Similar claims are often made regarding academics being secular liberals (in order to imply that smart people are both godless and liberal), but these ignore precedent as well as sampling problems.

[PatMaGroin]

Similar claims are often made regarding academics being secular liberals (in order to imply that smart people are both godless and liberal), but these ignore precedent as well as sampling problems.
I agree here. My prof's have been about 50/50 conservative/liberal, most of my high school teachers were liberal except for my AP World History teacher whose current even knowledge would put this entire forum to shame. Most intelligent college students I've seen are consveratives (but not all conservatives are intelligent, by far). Most liberals are just of the "Bush sucks" persuasion.

I consider myself a moderate conservative and I did vote for Bush, but I can laugh at a good Bush joke. But it seemed that everything politically minded at Last Laugh was half-assed.

[FreezerBurn]

Are you sure you're not thinking of "Mind of Mencia"? ComCent gave him a 1/2 hour assortment show, but it suffered from bad focus - they couldn't settle on a format. He's hardly conservative, though he's no libbie either.

There was also "Tough Crowd", which was a talk show, but I don't think it followed Stewart either.

It was tough crowd. And it came on immediately following the Daily Show. It was ok when it started out. But he started getting into politics and it got too forced.



Ah, yes, your informed opinion again, and this time regarding humor... :lol:

Don't confuse population with mentality; I believe the term we've discussed before is "false causation". Just because entertainers are currently liberals doesn't mean liberals are more entertaining. P.J. O'Rourke is generally regarded as the preeminent American humorist.

Similar claims are often made regarding academics being secular liberals (in order to imply that smart people are both godless and liberal), but these ignore precedent as well as sampling problems.

I believe this is what you call a straw. The role of comics is sometimes pointing out the absurdity in our everyday lives. With republicans in power, democrats are only a very small part of that. So any comic trying to make a living off democrats will be headed for the unemployment line. And when you're in the market for absurdity, the current administration has never been in short supply. Which might help explain Jon Stewart's success.

[jmervyn]

It was tough crowd. And it came on immediately following the Daily Show. It was ok when it started out. But he started getting into politics and it got too forced.Hmm, could be - again, I use TiVo so I don't pay much attention to scheduling. It really wasn't "conservative humor" so much as the same "in your face" stuff that Mencia uses; I think the host was from Boston.

I was very disappointed when it was cancelled, but that was because I enjoyed hearing the guest comics go at each other, not so much because of the silly political commentary. I used to be a huge fan of Politically Incorrect as well, because you got a far better perspective of just how empty some of the talking heads are.


I believe this is what you call a straw. The role of comics is sometimes pointing out the absurdity in our everyday lives. With republicans in power, democrats are only a very small part of that. So any comic trying to make a living off democrats will be headed for the unemployment line. And when you're in the market for absurdity, the current administration has never been in short supply. Which might help explain Jon Stewart's success.Ah, your redefinition of your previous comments is spot on, and I concur. Just as talk radio might have never bloomed without Clinton, Shrub has been the gift that keeps on giving to The Daily Show. Stewart has said as much himself.

OTOH, The Colbert Report seems pretty worthless to me. Maybe I ought to at least watch an episode, rather than judging from the ComCent spots.

[PatMaGroin]

OTOH, The Colbert Report seems pretty worthless to me. Maybe I ought to at least watch an episode, rather than judging from the ComCent spots.
The Colbert Report is even more farsical than the Daily Show. My favoriste segment is The Word or whatever its called. And Colbert's good with his guests too.

[FreezerBurn]

Hmm, could be - again, I use TiVo so I don't pay much attention to scheduling. It really wasn't "conservative humor" so much as the same "in your face" stuff that Mencia uses; I think the host was from Boston.

I was very disappointed when it was cancelled, but that was because I enjoyed hearing the guest comics go at each other, not so much because of the silly political commentary. I used to be a huge fan of Politically Incorrect as well, because you got a far better perspective of just how empty some of the talking heads are.

tough crowd was funny when it was comics ripping on each other. but towards the election, the host tried to stand up for bush. then it ended up being comics ripping on him and he looked like an idiot.


Ah, your redefinition of your previous comments is spot on, and I concur. Just as talk radio might have never bloomed without Clinton, Shrub has been the gift that keeps on giving to The Daily Show. Stewart has said as much himself.

I didn't redefine anything. I never said why left leaning comics were funnier than right leaning. You made an assumption that turned out to be wrong.


OTOH, The Colbert Report seems pretty worthless to me. Maybe I ought to at least watch an episode, rather than judging from the ComCent spots.

His first few shows were shaky. But I caught him the other night and he seems to be finding is rhythm. He went from doing two minutes to trying to fill an entire show without a supporting cast. I think he'll do fine, but he needs to be more unique to avoid being The Daily Show II.

[jmervyn]

I didn't redefine anything. I never said why left leaning comics were funnier than right leaning. You made an assumption that turned out to be wrong.No harm, no foul - I viewed your claim of "republican humor and redneck humor are one in the same." as being a general statement rather than a contemporary one.

But let's not go down that road again :D

Back on thread, I wonder if ComCent has favored the political/news spoof format to the cartoons because of rating returns or something. "Drawn Together" is in another season, as is "South Park", but didn't they have more 'toons a couple of years back? There was a press release (http://animatedtv.about.com/b/a/210508.htm) about more, but I haven't seen any ads.

Perhaps I'm confusing their programming with other networks like Cartoon Network (I love my TiVo). There was "American Dad" on Fox, but I have no idea if it is even shown any longer.

[jmervyn]

Most televisons today come with an OFF button. You must have a special model that not only won't turn off, but forces you to watch programs you don't enjoy. I hope you got a good deal on the price.

Sorry, Mac, was this thrown in my direction?

[FreezerBurn]

No harm, no foul - I viewed your claim of "republican humor and redneck humor are one in the same." as being a general statement rather than a contemporary one.

But let's not go down that road again :D

Back on thread, I wonder if ComCent has favored the political/news spoof format to the cartoons because of rating returns or something. "Drawn Together" is in another season, as is "South Park", but didn't they have more 'toons a couple of years back? There was a press release (http://animatedtv.about.com/b/a/210508.htm) about more, but I haven't seen any ads.

Perhaps I'm confusing their programming with other networks like Cartoon Network (I love my TiVo). There was "American Dad" on Fox, but I have no idea if it is even shown any longer.

I mostly only watch the daily show. The only animated series i remember are south park, drawn together and the tick. But the daily show has been around for a long time. they used to poke fun at clinton when he was in office. but aside from monica, he was a pretty reasonable guy and didn't give them much to work with. once bush took office, their ratings soared. mostly due to pure absurdity. but also because jon stewart is a hell of a lot smarter than craig kilborn.

[Echod16]

CC really needs to play more movies like "Happy Gilmore" than fricken beverly Hills Cop 500x over

watched a little of the Last laugh, but i was playing D2 at the time, so i only caught a couple jokes which were ok, but i could tell it was nowhere near the Dennis Leary roast : )