holy crap enchant! *brag brag brag*

[KevinHideo]

:D :lol: :D
ok so id like to start out by noting that i have been looking for anything enchantress related for pretty much all of my d2 ladder career. today, at 4:50am, right before i decided to go to bed, i logged on to scour the channels as i usually do looking for any trade games that i may earn some profits off of... about 2 minutes before i was gonna log off, i happened to see a game called

"chant ormus 4"

i didnt even get a chance to click it, but i figured, meh lets give it a shot. i type the name of the game, and start the trade process. the person originally wanted an um, and half way through the trade decided to bunp the price to um pul, and altho i was sorta peeved at this, i sucked it up and bought it anyways. needless to say, i was VERY satisfied with my purchase (us west ladder for those who are curious). it ended up looking a little something like this:

Check it out! (http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=holycrapormusrobe4ho.png)

wow. i never imagined i would ever have obtained something so friggin awesome! its like, one of those items that only 1 person on the entire season of ladder will/does have, and its me! although i payed um pul for it, i would have payed 2 or 3 ist, possibly 4 even.... i dont know, but one thing is for sure, i can sleep better knowing i have it in my possesion! ^_^ its my number one prized item now, coveted before anything i currently own, its been a good day =D

i guess the point to all this, is that i had to write it down, or say it, or something, cause this made my diablo year

and for conversations sakes, does anyone else have a similar/better robe/enchant item that i can be even more jealous of? if yes then it is your duty to show it to me so that i can swoon. swoooooooon


annnnnnd one more thing... (if anyone actual read this far) does someone have any clear evidence that using a 20/20 fire facet shield is better than the +2 skills of a spirit? cause if so i am in need of a shield change.

thanks~

[barttange]

I think you overestemate enchant although it has a serieus coolness factor.

Tell us more about your equipment, are you using prebufs?

pvm: 20/20
pvp vs caster spirit
pvp melee stormshield or 20/20 monarch of deflection (max block)
overall: 20/20 of deflection max block (get your resistance max though)

[KevinHideo]

I think you overestemate enchant although it has a serieus coolness factor.

Tell us more about your equipment, are you using prebufs?

pvm: 20/20
pvp vs caster spirit
pvp melee stormshield or 20/20 monarch of deflection (max block)
overall: 20/20 of deflection max block (get your resistance max though)

ahh thank you very much for the input... this character is not a serious one, and isnt meant for pvm or pvp really for that matter... its mostly just for coolness and helping out friends with starting new characters...

as for my equipment, i *could* make a hell viable chantress if i choose to, but i wanted to forsake all things and go for the highest possible chant i could obtain, just because.

my equipment is as follows:

+3 circlet (havent found a decent 2 socket +3 fire circlet yet)
+3 ammy
enchant ormus 13% fire with a x/5 in it ( soon to be my 15% with a 5/5)
dual bk rings
magefist
spirit shield
perfect fire eschutas (3/25)
arachnid mesh
sandstorm treks
9 fire skillers
anni
torch
10 random small charms (life and or poisen damage)

now, i have played with the idea of making a dream chantress, but i realized i would be sacrificing enchant damage again.. so i didnt.
also, now that you know my intent, do you get more damage out of a 20/20 shield rather than the +2 skills of a spirit? that is my biggest question.. anyways, thanks again for the input, its appreciated :D :thumbsup:

[StewieGriff_XLT]

wowzers, that is quite s3xy

5/5 die that piece NOWOWOWOW!!!

I think that +20% damage > +2 skills, but don't quote me on it....

cool beans my man, cool beans...

CJ :clap:

[KevinHideo]

wowzers, that is quite s3xy

5/5 die that piece NOWOWOWOW!!!

I think that +20% damage > +2 skills, but don't quote me on it....

cool beans my man, cool beans...

CJ :clap:

:D :D yeah im workin on getting the 5/5 die as i type this lol... no one seems to have one on ladder right now >_<

but thanks for the reply :lol:

as for the 20% > +2, that seems to be the general feel, but i dont know and no one has given a definitive answer yet, but thanks for the input, it is duely noted ^_^

[Darklife]

That's why blizzard invented our singleplayer testing ground ^^

[KevinHideo]

That's why blizzard invented our singleplayer testing ground ^^

heh, well, i dont really have the item mod things to do it with =\ if anyone can confirm whether the 20/20 shield would be better it would be much appreciated ^_^

[twelvebagger]

Your setup is identical to my chanter, who is strictly used on other players.

From my limited experimentation, +2>20/20 so you’re set there. I say this based on the limited use of facets in that they do very little.

Secondarily, yes, you can do better. Ditch the pfire eschutas and find a rare orb with +2 sorc and +3 chant, or +3 fire/chant, if it exists. This should top out your enchant, IMO.

My sorc is using exactly the same setup you are. You’ll find when you switch out the 13% for the 15%, your chant will only go up a negligible amount. It is by this logic that I assume +2>20/20

[Thynqikan]

Hey Kevin,

I see my old 13% +3 enchant ormus robe is about to hit the trade block.
Grats on finding your coveted 15% ormus.
Do you really think the extra 2% damage upgrade on the new robe would have really been worth 3-4 ists?

*thynqikan

[newerest]

[wow. i never imagined i would ever have obtained something so friggin awesome! its like, one of those items that only 1 person on the entire season of ladder will/does have, and its me! although i payed um pul for it, i would have payed 2 or 3 ist, possibly 4 even.... i dont know, but one thing is for sure, i can sleep better knowing i have it in my possesion! ^_^ its my number one prized item now, coveted before anything i currently own, its been a good day =D

Sorry to burst your bubble..but on useast ladder a +3 enchant/15% fire ormus' is worth just about as much as you got it for...they aren't really rare. But, it still is a nice armor..


IMO, 2>20/20 for enchant

[KevinHideo]

Your setup is identical to my chanter, who is strictly used on other players.

From my limited experimentation, +2>20/20 so you’re set there. I say this based on the limited use of facets in that they do very little.

Secondarily, yes, you can do better. Ditch the pfire eschutas and find a rare orb with +2 sorc and +3 chant, or +3 fire/chant, if it exists. This should top out your enchant, IMO.

My sorc is using exactly the same setup you are. You’ll find when you switch out the 13% for the 15%, your chant will only go up a negligible amount. It is by this logic that I assume +2>20/20

yeah thats what i figured too, as when i exchanged robes, i think i gained about 40 damage :P and yes, i am definetly still looking for that wonderful 3 fire 3 chant orb... i also heard that a 2 sorc 3 fire 3 chant could exist, and if it does, then im gonna have to be all over it ^_^ but until then, a 3+ fire 3 enchant will do just fine :D

Hey Kevin,

I see my old 13% +3 enchant ormus robe is about to hit the trade block.
Grats on finding your coveted 15% ormus.
Do you really think the extra 2% damage upgrade on the new robe would have really been worth 3-4 ists?

*thynqikan

haha well, ive looked for what seems like months for anything better than what i currently had, to no avail... when i saw this robe, i coudlnt believe it, and yes i was probably willing to pay MUCH more that i did haha... maybe not 3-4 ists, but 2 is definetly something i might have payed... =D thanks again for the use of that old robe, it served me well ^_^


Sorry to burst your bubble..but on useast ladder a +3 enchant/15% fire ormus' is worth just about as much as you got it for...they aren't really rare. But, it still is a nice armor..


IMO, 2>20/20 for enchant

well, it is only 4 defence off a perfect fire enchant robe, and imo, lots of b.net players probably wouldnt know about the power of enchant so they would likely dismiss the robe as worthless... and make it charsi fodder (actually i believe *I* did that when i started playing ladder.... ugh) anyways, while i kinda find it hard to believe that a perfect enchant 15% with almost the maximum defence is only worth um pul, you may be right and i might be a complete idiot for thinking otherwise :lol: and yeah, im starting to feel that the spirit is the ideal in this situation, thanks for the input :thumbsup:

[Thynqikan]

I happened to find a 14% fire +3 enchant ormus robes about a week after I traded the 13% to you, didnt think you would care.

def 467
15% cold
10% Lightning
14% Fire
+3 enchant
+16 def
regen mana 14%

*thynqikan

[Undercat]

Just because I suck at math, your setup is giving you what to skills: 31? lvl 51 enchant?! What's the damage on that?

[Xion]

Though I'm not a huge fan of Ormus, that is a pretty nice little prize you there. You definitely didn't get ripped off in any way shape or form.

[twelvebagger]

Just because I suck at math, your setup is giving you what to skills: 31? lvl 51 enchant?! What's the damage on that?

It's in the 5500-6k ballpark, IIRC, when you cast it on another player.
I use the same setup and chant my multishot zon with my other computer in game. Needless to say she rips through the chaos sanctuary and pits like a hot knife through butter, pushing 9k multishot and 14-15kish frozen arrow.

9k doesn't sound like a lot, but when you're popping off rounds at a good speed, it sure kills fast as hell.

[KevinHideo]

Just because I suck at math, your setup is giving you what to skills: 31? lvl 51 enchant?! What's the damage on that?

heh yes, its lv 51... and actually (stupidly i forgot to add this) i have a cta as well, giving me lv 52 enchants. it results in 5050-5800 damage added to other people, and i can punch 30k =) i also have a +3 enchant leaf staf, giving me lv 53 enchant, but it is not as effective.. im still looking for a 3 fire skill (nice mod?) circlet with 2 sockets however as well as a 3 enchant 3 fire skills orb to complete the devastation :lol:

[Bert]

This is gonna be a stupid question, but, If you enchant a LVL 1 char with that char, the lvl 1 does 6 k damage?

- Bert

[ConF]

This is gonna be a stupid question, but, If you enchant a LVL 1 char with that char, the lvl 1 does 6 k damage?

- Bert

Yep. Commonly used in HC low-lvl duels... lame people enchanting their low-lvls to gain ungodly amounts of damage.

[KevinHideo]

This is gonna be a stupid question, but, If you enchant a LVL 1 char with that char, the lvl 1 does 6 k damage?

- Bert

heh yeah... i sometimes go around on b.net looking for *act one start* games and such on normal, and enchant everyone there. i figure, if they're gonna be awesome and actual level on their own and quest and such rather than just get rushed, they deserve a little bonus. and by little, i mean the ability to kill any and all of act 1's creatures and bosses in one punch :D

[psych]

You probably thought of this, but in the +2 skills and +20 dmg (the -20 res does not make a difference when casting enchant does it?) shields also consider that higher level enchant gives more ar bonus than lower level.

[Bert]

heh yeah... i sometimes go around on b.net looking for *act one start* games and such on normal, and enchant everyone there. i figure, if they're gonna be awesome and actual level on their own and quest and such rather than just get rushed, they deserve a little bonus. and by little, i mean the ability to kill any and all of act 1's creatures and bosses in one punch :D

thx,

since I found an ormus like yours myself, I might make me an enchantres :clap:

Mind sharing the skill allocation?

- Bert

[KevinHideo]

thx,

since I found an ormus like yours myself, I might make me an enchantres :clap:

Mind sharing the skill allocation?

- Bert

yeah no problem :D

basically, since i went pure enchant damage, i didnt need to use light mastery for a dream since it sacrifices enchant damage... so i instead went the frozen orb as a back up spell, and it kicks butt having it. my skills look like this

20 enchant
20 warmth
20 fire mastery
20 frozen orb
1 pre req's
1 static
1 teleport

and there you have it.. feel free to put the rest into more static, cold mastery, or whatever you want.. it finishes at about lv 82-85, and is crazy powerful when properly equiped. it is quite expensive for a realistically pointless build lol.. i just did it for kicks, and cause i had runes to spare.. if you do to, the by all means have a blast :p

you dont have to put it into frozen orb, but its a nice skill to have, and it ends up with decent damage.. good for killing lotsa guys in rushes and such.. but yeah, if you have any more questions, feel free to ask :thumbsup:

[JanusJones]

yeah no problem :D

basically, since i went pure enchant damage, i didnt need to use light mastery for a dream since it sacrifices enchant damage... so i instead went the frozen orb as a back up spell, and it kicks butt having it. my skills look like this

20 enchant
20 warmth
20 fire mastery
20 frozen orb
1 pre req's
1 static
1 teleport

and there you have it.. feel free to put the rest into more static, cold mastery, or whatever you want.. it finishes at about lv 82-85, and is crazy powerful when properly equiped. it is quite expensive for a realistically pointless build lol.. i just did it for kicks, and cause i had runes to spare.. if you do to, the by all means have a blast :p

you dont have to put it into frozen orb, but its a nice skill to have, and it ends up with decent damage.. good for killing lotsa guys in rushes and such.. but yeah, if you have any more questions, feel free to ask :thumbsup:

It doesn't have to!

My Double Dreamer has ALL the Enchant Synergies maxed, with maxed Lightning Mastery to boot! Of course, that's ALL she has, but hey - she does 60k damage with Zeal! And that's without the unreasonably cool pre-buff gear you're bragging about here - I am, by the way, jealous - nice Ormus!

[SakuraNeteru]

basically, since i went pure enchant damage, i didnt need to use light mastery for a dream since it sacrifices enchant damage... so i instead went the frozen orb as a back up spell, and it kicks butt having it. my skills look like this
Um, correct me if I am wrong, but L.mastery (and all the others) does not require any prereqs, right? How can you be sacrificing enchant damage by using l.mastery if f.orb is the level 30 cold skill with half a dozen prereqs?
:confused:

And BTW, Merry Christmas!
-Kat :xmas8:

[SakuraNeteru]

Just as a off-topic thought:
Has anyone tried to enchant a melee necromancer with full trang's set? Wonder if the built-in fire mastery would improve the damage enough...

-Kat :xmas8: