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johanca
08-12-2005, 12:52
I just started over on Europe SCL after 2 years of absence from d2.
I thought id make a mf sorc to gather some gear for future projects.
After some thought i came up with a set for my sorc, its meant to be cheap and provide me with decent mf and also some degree of survivability.


Tarnhelm
skin of vipermagi
chance guards
Occulus
Rhyme shield
Goldwrap
Rare Boots
Prismatic amulet/ rare amulet
2 rare rings

This will give me an MF of about 210-240 (socketed with topazes) 390%extra gold, resists all 101, 60%fcr, 40%fbr, +5 to all skills.
I would also get resists, mana, life... from Rare boots and rare rings and possibly a rare amulet which are not covered in the stats i mention.

So, what you all think, is this a decent and cheap kit to get my hands on for starting up some mf:ing? All theese parts shouldnt be to hard to get my hands on correct?

What do you think this set would cost me? in runes? in gems?...

Maybe its all covered in drop from the hell difficulty hellforge quest if im lucky.

McCain123
08-12-2005, 15:12
Alhough his is no he right forum for prizecheck, your posting implies both, prizes and strategy.

The gear you chose seems good.

Tarnhelm: 3 pgems if no too close to 50% mf ( will get 45 probably )
Skin of Vipermagi: 10 pgems for a low one
Chance Guards: low ones basically free, 3 pgems in he lower 30ies, perfect ones are expensive
Occulus: still in he runes section, hough not sure about prize, maybe Wizardspike: for 3 pgems would be a cheaper way
Rhyme: Well you now the runes for this :)
Goldwrap: Not more than 3 pgems/ sometimes free
Rare Boots: Find some boots with mf ( can be magic ) and donīt care about the rest
Prismatic Amu: 3 pgems / plain +2 sorc amu: 3 pgems / plain 3x% mf amu: 3 pgems / but a combination of these mods could become expensive
are Rings: Find mf rings ( can be magic ) or trade for not perfec nagelrins above 25% mf for 3 pgems

Guess with pul-um you could get a good starter set.

johanca
08-12-2005, 15:58
Thanks alot

I just have to start hunting gems then, shouldnt take to many cowruns to get them, should be able to do nm cows alone pretty good. And i still have all the hellforge quests undone.. doing all of them will probably get me something.

Tonight ill start hunting for my mf:gear, will be soooo much fun!

PhatTrumpet
08-12-2005, 16:55
Only problem I see with your setup is the 60% FCR... 63% is really a bare minimum in my opinion.

Try crafting some caster amulets to make up for the 3% FCR deficiency (Ral rune + perfect amethyst + magic amulet + magic jewel). You might get lucky and get skills + resists on top of the FCR.

johanca
08-12-2005, 17:17
Only problem I see with your setup is the 60% FCR... 63% is really a bare minimum in my opinion.

Try crafting some caster amulets to make up for the 3% FCR deficiency (Ral rune + perfect amethyst + magic amulet + magic jewel). You might get lucky and get skills + resists on top of the FCR.


Well, my setup includes 2 rare rings. They can have fcr as well, havent found any decent ones yet though. I have a prismatic amulet now but it could be changed for a good rare one as well or what you spoke of. But i really need the res for survivability..

McCain123
08-12-2005, 17:54
Then I srongly suggest Wizzardspike instead of Occulus. Wizzy has 75% res all, 50% fcr and is dirt cheap.

johanca
08-12-2005, 19:16
Then I srongly suggest Wizzardspike instead of Occulus. Wizzy has 75% res all, 50% fcr and is dirt cheap.


found a pul on nightmare hellforge... thats quite nice or?

AnimeCraze
08-12-2005, 21:47
That's rather nice. If you are lucky, you can get an occy with it, I guess.

darzog
09-12-2005, 00:20
This has been said before, but I'll add my vote too.... I would recommend going with a wizspike instead of an Occy. The resists and fcr make it a great choice. Plus I've never liked the random teleport.

Having such high fcr and resists allow you to reorder some gear or even hit another fcr breakpoint. You do lose skills, but a sorc doing boss runs kills quick enough that even a 20% drop in damage isn't too tragic. Just my $0.02.

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Darzog

johanca
09-12-2005, 08:32
This has been said before, but I'll add my vote too.... I would recommend going with a wizspike instead of an Occy. The resists and fcr make it a great choice. Plus I've never liked the random teleport.

Having such high fcr and resists allow you to reorder some gear or even hit another fcr breakpoint. You do lose skills, but a sorc doing boss runs kills quick enough that even a 20% drop in damage isn't too tragic. Just my $0.02.

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Darzog

So ill change the occy for a spike.. that will give me:
+ 55% more resist all
+ 20% more fcr
+ 15% max mana
+ 2mana/level (thats 130 mana for me rigt now..)
+ 15% regen mana


- 20 vitality
- 20 energy
- 3 skill
- 50% mf

then ill drop to say 150%mf, but ill increase speed due to more mana and better survivability. the loss in damage due to skills is partly covered by castrate i guess.

McCain123
09-12-2005, 11:44
Well, first of all, you have to be able to survive a run, to get a reward. So make sure, your resistances are somewhere close to 75% and you donīt get hit to often, while teleing, meaning, try to get 63% fcr at least.

Magic find above 200% wonīt give you a much bigger chance of finding uniques, you will be after most likely, so donīt bother too much about it.

Your ideal choice of weapon would be a Hoto. 40 fcr, 30-40% res and 3 skills, but Hoto is expensive, so Wizzy is one of the options.

Phat Trumpet has a good point as well. Crafting with the caster receipt will always give you a least 5% fcr and you are only lacking 3%.

Pul from Nightmare Forge is the second best you can get, as you will get sol-um from it.

johanca
09-12-2005, 12:53
Well, first of all, you have to be able to survive a run, to get a reward. So make sure, your resistances are somewhere close to 75% and you donīt get hit to often, while teleing, meaning, try to get 63% fcr at least.

Magic find above 200% wonīt give you a much bigger chance of finding uniques, you will be after most likely, so donīt bother too much about it.

Your ideal choice of weapon would be a Hoto. 40 fcr, 30-40% res and 3 skills, but Hoto is expensive, so Wizzy is one of the options.

Phat Trumpet has a good point as well. Crafting with the caster receipt will always give you a least 5% fcr and you are only lacking 3%.

Pul from Nightmare Forge is the second best you can get, as you will get sol-um from it.

Thanks alot for a good answer, i think ill go with the wizardspike for now. If i have that instead of occy i dont have to have very good resists on my rings wich mean i more easily can get mf on them to counter for the lost mf on occy.

I hope my luck will stay a while longer atleast.. ill be home from work playing in a couple of hours... I WANNA GO NOW!!!!

btw, where can i learn more about the drops on hf quest? what runes do i get in hell diff?

McCain123
09-12-2005, 13:48
From Hell Forge you will get hel-gul. I donīt know, where it is written down.

psych
09-12-2005, 14:36
Thanks alot for a good answer, i think ill go with the wizardspike for now. If i have that instead of occy i dont have to have very good resists on my rings wich mean i more easily can get mf on them to counter for the lost mf on occy.

I hope my luck will stay a while longer atleast.. ill be home from work playing in a couple of hours... I WANNA GO NOW!!!!

btw, where can i learn more about the drops on hf quest? what runes do i get in hell diff?

Statistics forums, lot of usefull stickies (days of reading material)

Also strategy compendium on www.diabloii.net has a lot of usefull info, but check the date it was written and see if it still applies.

johanca
14-12-2005, 12:35
Just wanted to brag some!

Got Diablo walks the earth yesterday and that resulted in a VERY nice little charm for me!

19/19/6 Annilus, THANK YOU all soj-selling people! (someone/some people sold about 120 sojs within 30 minutes...)

Tuesday 21.27 (GMT+1) on europe server softcore ladder.

(i got help form a fellow swedish player to kill him and gave him my hell hellforge for it, thanks alot!)

johanca
14-12-2005, 16:18
Just wanted to brag some!

Got Diablo walks the earth yesterday and that resulted in a VERY nice little charm for me!

19/19/6 Annilus, THANK YOU all soj-selling people! (someone/some people sold about 120 sojs within 30 minutes...)

Tuesday 21.27 (GMT+1) on europe server softcore ladder.

(i got help form a fellow swedish player to kill him and gave him my hell hellforge for it, thanks alot!)

By the way, whould my 19/19/6 annilus be counted as a really good one right?