poisonnecro question

[Niebelheim]

the next char i wanna play is the poisonnecro, therefore i´ll do mf runs with my sorc, so far i have found/traded following equipment for my necro:

full trang
maras25
wartaveller/natalya boots/aldurs boots (dunno which of these are best suited for the necro)
blackbog´s

now here´s the problem, i neiher have deathweb nor a good white-staff, leave alone a bramble armour. so i want to now if the poisonnecro with the above mentioned equipment is capable of soloing hell?

thx in advance

[angel wraith]

dont use full trang.
use only shield, belt and gloves.
- shako socketed with um if yr resist is not good, but i preffer to socket with psn facet 5/5 and to invest some runes in resist scs.
- marrowalk 2 - wt is good for pit runs.
- mara is ok
- as rings, since i dont have soj and/or bk, i use fcr/all resist blue rings;
I had blackbog until lvl 83 when i bought a very nice 2/2/49 dw. Man, this is awesome, biiiiiiig difference, although is very, very expensive. But also with blackbog my necro is doing pits in hell very well.
Dont neglect yr might mercenary for yr meat shields skellies and revives.
put only 1 point in Lower Resist. The battle should be like this: cast Lower Resist, Poison Nova, Amp Dmg , nova, nova, nova.

you will have hard times with black souls, but this character is the most fun character i have ever played. In hell cows is doing even better than a hammerdin.
There is a very nice guide wrote by usamahanas which i read it before i was making my psn/summon necro.

regards,
aw

[elmek]

As it was already told, poison necro is great for pit runs. Perhaps you should think about putting some mf on him. I'm doing pit/trav/meph/CS/cows runs with my poison necro no problems with full resists and 260+% mf. I have a dweb, but blackbogs will do for a start, or even HOTO.
I also do not recommend using full trang, swap trang armour for enigma and helm for shako (socketed with ptopaz or um). Get yourself a torch and couple of pb skillers. I use war travellers as they're great for mf and my build does not include skellies as a meat shields, I prefer rather synergized bone armour for protection + gumby.

And with dweb, battle looks like this: lower resists, pnova - everything green for ~2 sec and everything dead. 2nd pnova only for uniques and champs/possessed. :thumbsup:

good luck.
-elmek

[LorveN]

The battle should be like this: cast Lower Resist, Poison Nova, Amp Dmg , nova, nova, nova.


Amp is just stupid, they die from nova anyway. And faster too. Amp is just for psn immunes imo.

However, you are very right about equip. Trang Gloves/Belt/Shield is the combo for a psnmancer. Never change those.
Shako is great, maras cant go wrong either. Rings, well, sojs are the best. Fcr/mana is never bad though. I'd say you could use vipermagi as a cheap armor. Resists,fcr,skill.
Boots is the big questionmark. Dno really what to use here. Marrowalks arent really that useful anymore, when the bug was disabled :)

[Niebelheim]

thanx for the input guys, but is the full trang set really that bad?? the fcr malus you get, is not that important, since the pn lasts two seconds anyway.

@angel wraith i´ve read the guide, but i won´t use skellies at all, instead i will use ba with synergies and/or one point into revives, if i have enough skills left. so ba, revives(?) clay golem and might merc. should give me enough protection (won´t go for max block therefore)

btw: i can´t afford things like hoto, bramble or soj´s, i keep my fingers corssed, that i can somehow land a deathweb (this is not a begging try) but all the other stuff won´t be on my shopping list

[AnimeCraze]

No, full Trangs is not bad at all. I personally use it. It's not optimal, compared to some other gear, but it is sort of a easy to choose package deal, dealing with most problems at once. Plus, you get to play with your firewalls, which are nice for psn immunes. Full Trangs is definitely better to summon/poison than to pure venomancer, though.

[angel wraith]

if u will not use 20 skillpoints in skellies and at least 1++ in mastery, i really dont know if u will be able to make all the game arreas. Yes, for pit u will be ok, but for the other areas?... and the monsters are not dying so easy with only nova.
u will take this necro until level 85-86 and due to the fact that u will die too often, u will make a.....hammerdin or a barb... :lol:
I am speaking here about a necro which owns all the arreas/monsters from the game.
let me know when u will reach those levels.

have fun.
aw

[LorveN]

No, full Trangs is not bad at all. I personally use it. It's not optimal, compared to some other gear, but it is sort of a easy to choose package deal, dealing with most problems at once. Plus, you get to play with your firewalls, which are nice for psn immunes. Full Trangs is definitely better to summon/poison than to pure venomancer, though.

Firewall and fireball are there for you even if you just use the 3-parts-combo belt/gloves/shield too.
Its meteor that requires 4 pieces, and imo, meteor is too hard to target fleeing foes with. Firewall is better.

[elmek]

if u will not use 20 skillpoints in skellies and at least 1++ in mastery, i really dont know if u will be able to make all the game arreas. Yes, for pit u will be ok, but for the other areas?... and the monsters are not dying so easy with only nova.
u will take this necro until level 85-86 and due to the fact that u will die too often, u will make a.....hammerdin or a barb... :lol:
I am speaking here about a necro which owns all the arreas/monsters from the game.
let me know when u will reach those levels.


Poison necro with synergized bone armour and a gumby as a meat shield can own any area in the game no problems (excluding areas with 120% poison immunes, takes a bit linger there). My necro is built that way (with no points in skellies) and I run chaos sanctuary, travi, meph and wsk no problems (4th baal wave is only a problem though as the poison immunity of these guys cannot be broken. Corpse + CE does the trick here :D ).
On players 1 one nova with enough -enemy presist is enough for most places (7k+ nova damage approx, -70% enemy presist from gear). Even those blood lords in wsk die within a second from this.
-elmek

[zeskelnec]

Why not going the poisondaggermancer route with blackbog. You could switch to Nova when getting a death web. Only difference is your need to put some points in Low resist (not too much), the +skill can easily give a -50% psnr.

[elmek]

Why not going the poisondaggermancer route with blackbog. You could switch to Nova when getting a death web. Only difference is your need to put some points in Low resist (not too much), the +skill can easily give a -50% psnr.

Actually you need to get to -55% lr (lvl 10) to break most immunities. Poison dagger is an option, but I think only up to lvl 30 until you get nova. Later you can use it to get he first corpse for CE but in hell I wouldn't recomment going melee with necro.
-elmek

[AnimeCraze]

Firewall and fireball are there for you even if you just use the 3-parts-combo belt/gloves/shield too.
Its meteor that requires 4 pieces, and imo, meteor is too hard to target fleeing foes with. Firewall is better.Fire mastery with all items. Otherwise, your FW damage sucks.

[LorveN]

I still think the advantages from using a good armor/helm instead of trangs make up for the damage loss. + to all skills do boost the firewall.
I have a firewall doing 1.7k/sec, and sure, nothing to talk about in 8player games. But when playing 1player, along with lower resists, they go down fast.
The damage might be higher with full trangs, but instead your main damage source - the poison (novas)- will suffer.

[kuneen]

I still think the advantages from using a good armor/helm instead of trangs make up for the damage loss. + to all skills do boost the firewall.
I have a firewall doing 1.7k/sec, and sure, nothing to talk about in 8player games. But when playing 1player, along with lower resists, they go down fast.
The damage might be higher with full trangs, but instead your main damage source - the poison (novas)- will suffer.


If you need a blackbog's..i've got one..i'll trade it to you cheap cuz i"ll never use it. I'm on US East SCL

I've tried using poison dagger..just doesn't compare to Nova...at least to me.